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Misfit138 09-16-07 10:19 AM
[REL] NSM3.3 compatible torpedo harcore mod
 
Finally was able to finish this. Did some major tweaking compared on my previous version. It should be much better now

Kept certain settings WernerSobe had set like chances for getting a circular runner. Ships act excatly like in his mod when they get a hit. Explosions do the same damage as in his mod too

Didn't test this but did a double check that everything were set right so it should work as intended. However, if you find any problems with this mod please report those into this thread so I can fix those ASAP


IMPORTANT
In order to make this mod work correctly, you need to delete contents of RichSavedGames. Remember to enable this mod before deleting any saves or you deleted your saves all for nothing!

If you do not like this mod and want to use the orginal NSM 3.3 torpedo setup, disable torpedo hardcore mod and delete the save games

http://files.filefront.com/NSM33+har.../fileinfo.html

WernerSobe 09-16-07 11:40 AM
ill add the link to NSM page. tnx

rcjonessnp175 09-16-07 12:16 PM
sorry for Noob question, but what exactly does this mod change in regards to the torpedos, compared to the Nsm mod??:up:

tater 09-16-07 12:18 PM
It has the NSM changes in terms of damage (all that matters for NSM), but it makes them fail more often.

tater

Misfit138 09-16-07 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WernerSobe
ill add the link to NSM page. tnx
Great, thank you very much! :)

Quote:
sorry for Noob question, but what exactly does this mod change in regards to the torpedos, compared to the Nsm mod??
Tater covered this well enough but more info about this mod as it is based on it

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...rpedo+hardcore

Dogster 09-21-07 10:40 PM
This is just a preliminary observation: When I play in career mode that don't malfuntion as much as they do when I play single mission.

I did the natural sinking mission: fired six, 3 duds, 1 premature detonation, 2 hits.

Playing in career, one patrol so far: fired 18, 13 hits, 5 misses.

I'm not sure if that means anything.

Misfit138 09-21-07 10:58 PM
Thanks for reporting this Dogster :up:

I'm gonna take a look into this although I bet you were just having a good luck. Have had a couple of similar type of cases myself in the training missions

tater 09-22-07 01:29 AM
What are the dates of your single missions vs career play?

The hardcore dudd mod does improve torp quality over time...

tater

mrbeast 09-22-07 06:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogster
This is just a preliminary observation: When I play in career mode that don't malfuntion as much as they do when I play single mission.

I did the natural sinking mission: fired six, 3 duds, 1 premature detonation, 2 hits.

Playing in career, one patrol so far: fired 18, 13 hits, 5 misses.

I'm not sure if that means anything.
Had exactly the same thing in the career my torps are pretty reliable, in fact too relaible, but in single missions they are very buggy.

I ususally use the NSM test mission as a general test mission too when I download a new mod.

Dogster 09-22-07 07:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tater
What are the dates of your single missions vs career play?

The hardcore dudd mod does improve torp quality over time...

tater
The date is 6/12/42 out of Pearl, USS Growler, deployed to Hokkaido. I think the natural sinking mission test is 4/1/43

tater 09-22-07 08:38 AM
They should be pretty crappy in 1942, that's for sure.

tater

fire-fox 09-22-07 10:22 AM
will this work with TM?

Misfit138 09-22-07 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fire-fox
will this work with TM?
Can't think any reasons why this wouldn't work. Just overwrite the Torpedoes_US.sim file and everything should be just fine

fire-fox 09-22-07 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Misfit138
Quote:
Originally Posted by fire-fox
will this work with TM?
Can't think any reasons why this wouldn't work. Just overwrite the Torpedoes_US.sim file and everything should be just fine
Tar:arrgh!:

iw281201 10-05-07 04:32 PM
torps
 
I had the same problem with the torpedos. In the single missions they are very realistic based on the time of year. In the campaigns this does not occur. The error rate is still the same as when the mod wasn't applied. Every once in a while you get a dud torpedo, as opposed to fairly regularly.

I'm a realism fanatic, so this is an important mod. I need more duds in the campaign! :)

thanks,
ian

Misfit138 10-08-07 02:50 AM
Ok, so there seems to be a problem with duds in the campaing. I still haven't looked into this that much simply because I'm currently lacking the time

Volunteer testers would be great 'cause testing is the part which requires the time I do not have at the moment

Misfit138 10-09-07 10:06 AM
I think I figured out the cause of the problem some of you are having. And did this all by just sitting on my ass right in front of this screen :lol:

So, many of you have reported that duds do not occur as often in the campaign as they do in the single missions. That's most likely because of the save.tmp file. If my memory doesn't fail me, that was the problem with bringing the lightnings back into the game. They did work in single missions but not in the campaign and this was somehow related to temporary save files.

Could anybody give more details about fixing this lightning issue? The same trick most likely is going to solve this problem too

leovampire 10-09-07 03:47 PM
I don't know exactly which file in the saves does this
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Misfit138
I think I figured out the cause of the problem some of you are having. And did this all by just sitting on my ass right in front of this screen :lol:

So, many of you have reported that duds do not occur as often in the campaign as they do in the single missions. That's most likely because of the save.tmp file. If my memory doesn't fail me, that was the problem with bringing the lightnings back into the game. They did work in single missions but not in the campaign and this was somehow related to temporary save files.

Could anybody give more details about fixing this lightning issue? The same trick most likely is going to solve this problem too
I had to delete the entire save folder for SHIV in my game and start over from scratch after I had added the files to the game so it would read and save the changes once the game was started up again and then when it recreated the save file everything worked for me just fine.

Misfit138 10-10-07 12:56 AM
Ok, thanks for clearing that up leovampire! :up:

I had only deleted the save.tmp and replay.tmp files but left the save folder :doh: No wonder I didn't saw any lightnings!

But now that I know this, I'm gonna try to test this sometime during this week. I wanna make it completely sure that this solves the problem so anybody having this lacking of duds problem, do not delete your save files just yet

leovampire 10-10-07 01:14 AM
Just remember to add your files to the game before
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Misfit138
Ok, thanks for clearing that up leovampire! :up:

I had only deleted the save.tmp and replay.tmp files but left the save folder :doh: No wonder I didn't saw any lightnings!

But now that I know this, I'm gonna try to test this sometime during this week. I wanna make it completely sure that this solves the problem so anybody having this lacking of duds problem, do not delete your save files just yet
Add the files before You start the game again other wise deleting the save folder did nothing. The files have to be present in the game directory before it is started and a new save file is built by the game okay?!

You will notice it takes a long time for the game to load because it makes it read every file the game has in it to build a new Save folder base for the game which means there is a cache file being created for the game.


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