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VonHammer 08-25-07 10:39 AM

B-52 - For sale?
 
just saw this article on yahoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070824/..._usa_bomber_dc

quite surprising if you ask me.

Sailor Steve 08-25-07 10:43 AM

A lot of different warplanes are available on the public market, some of them fairly new. The B-52 is now 55 years old and has quite a bit of history behind it. I'm not surprised somebody tried.

What gets me is the cost; back in 1952 they ran about $8 million each.

VonHammer 08-25-07 11:26 AM

thats true. but u just dont see a indivdual going up and asking to buy a $550 million dollar plane out of the blue. and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two.

panzer 49th 08-25-07 11:26 AM

"It would cost 500 million if sold on the spot" "thats no problem":rotfl:LOL:rotfl:

stew278 08-25-07 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonHammer
and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two.

According to a documentary on the History channel, the Mig 21 is the worlds most produced combat jet; something around >10,000 built.

At the USAF museum in Dayton, there is a Mig 23 on display. The story behind it is that it was purchased by a US civilian, but was confiscated by BATF because they imported it without proper permits.

FooFighters 08-25-07 01:27 PM

Now this is a cool article..

For that money he can built one himself :rotfl:

VonHammer 08-25-07 01:49 PM

and if u did buy it, what would you do with it? i mean its not like a private get which you can land at any decent airport. and imagaine the what the cost to fill it up would be! and im pretty sure the fuel economy isnt that like that of a toyota.

pythos 08-25-07 02:13 PM

Problem I have is, this is an incontinental bomber. It was my understanding that no US IC bomber could be released to the public in flyable condition due to the threat it posed. This was at least the story with the few B-36s available. Not one can fly nor can they currently ever fly again. Dallas Fort worth historical society tried to restore their example to a flyable condition, until the airforce stated they needed to demilitarize it, what does that mean? Well I thought it meant they removed any and all weapons systems fromt the aircraft. In actuallity it was this along with the dispicable act of pulling the engines off with an f'ing tractor. They litterally ripped the engines and mounts off the wing mounts, thus imparting so much damage to the airframe it will take a whole lot of work to get it to fly again.

So how in the world can a private person be able to purchase a flyable example of a B-52?

VonHammer 08-25-07 02:23 PM

novelty item i guess? it would defintly impress your freinds.

simonb1612 08-25-07 04:31 PM

bad idea
 
and dont you think that it would scare the cr*p out of any russian monitoring stations when he tried to fly it home! Especially now the russian airforce has resumed unannounced flights into nato airspace.:ping:

VonHammer 08-25-07 05:29 PM

yea i guess they probaly havnt seen a B-52 on their radar scopes in a while. i think that within the next few years we might see the rise of a new Russia-it could be back to Cold War era again....

bookworm_020 08-26-07 08:29 PM

Maybe he wanted to live out a Dr Stangelove role play?

Now where is my hat! YEEEEHAAA!:arrgh!:

VonHammer 08-26-07 09:28 PM

yea and since it seems like theryre allies with Iran- who knows what could happen!

Oberon 08-27-07 08:06 AM

Could you imagine the faces of a Tu-95's crew seeing that going the other way on one of their trips out? :lol:

swifty 08-27-07 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonHammer
thats true. but u just dont see a indivdual going up and asking to buy a $550 million dollar plane out of the blue. and i belive your right about there being many differnt warplanes available for purchase, i belive that the most produced jet aircraft was either the MiG-27 or MiG-17 one of those two.

Go to the Miami boat show. Every time I go I see or hear about foreign nationals asking how much it will cost for them to be driving a multi million yacht that night. For a lot of these people money is not an object. They will blow millions on the spot.

SUBMAN1 08-27-07 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
...What gets me is the cost; back in 1952 they ran about $8 million each.

My calculations put $8 million in 1952 at about $480 Million in todays dollars, so that sounds about right. Add in another $20 million for improved avionics, and I think his $500 million is about right on the mark as a pretty accurate estimate on what it would cost to build a replacement today, on assembly line dollars - assuming no new research needed to be done.

-S

VonHammer 08-27-07 11:44 AM

and theres bound to be even more improvements the B-52. that plane will last probaly another 50 years.

AntEater 08-27-07 12:50 PM

Strange with the B-36.
Pretty much everybody could buy a Boeing 747 and would a much more capable intercontinental bomber than a B-36 with just a few modifications.

What do you think, it should be possible to construct a GPS-guided glider bomb similar to LongShot and drop it from a high flying airliner that filed a regular flight plan and does not deviate from it.
Commercial GPS, components of homebuild aircraft and a conventional freefall air bomb (thousands of which must be lying around in Afghanistan or Iraq) would suffice.
The airliner would be an inconspicious freighter of some charter airline, the bomb(s) being simply rolled out of the sideways cargo door with no or minor modifications to the aircraft itself.
From 20,000 feet even an unpowered glide bomb would have a huge radius and given that even a freighter 737 could carry more than one, it would be a devastating terrorist attack without any suiciders.
How's that for a Tom Clancy novel idea??
:D

VonHammer 08-27-07 01:54 PM

pretty good if you ask me. ive read almost all of his books including all of the Jack Ryan sereis. something similar he did in Executive Orders- where some crazy Jap airline piolts crash a airliner into the capitol building killing a majority of the govrnment. oh how somedays i wish that would realy happen...

elite_hunter_sh3 08-27-07 05:02 PM

http://www.tankride.com/Contract_Sales.html


lets seee with the right amount of money i can legalize a tank !!!:hmm: as long it has rubber tracks and DOT lights and side markers, and it passes emissions (that is doable, i can reweld a new custom exhaust which features catalyctic converters to clean the exhaust gasses), and tada! although i wonder about insurance :shifty: (not that i need it since 3.5 inches of reinforced steel to protect me from "up to 120mm rounds, small arms fire, rocket propelled grenades (rpg), some land mines, armor peircing rounds
:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:


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