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Several teams now have sanctioned their own drivers. Now even the tour leader in the yellow shirt has been stopped - by his own team. The organizers of the tour still are hesitant to be consequent, obviously the show is more important for them than consequent anti-doping policies. Meanwhile, outside the field of active drivers, former idols have their heads in the sling (Ulrich), are about to find a rope around their neck (Armstrong), some even already died from side-effects of their doping, or try to arrange deals with the state attorneys (several active or planned drivers of the current tour).

How serious could an anti-dope policy have been , if the control of the system was left for the most to those criminal figures who previously had made a system of doping? Did anyone really believe that people who used needles and blood conserves all of a sudden would say "Okay, let's clean it up", and immediately would make a 180° turnout and stick to their words? That assumptions was naive, and ridiculous.

The bike sports stinks to heaven. Sport doctors can - and have - calculate for you that the energy the human body is burning during one day at the tour with that kind of speed that we see amongst professionals would mean an equivalent of eating 10-15 packages of pasta/noodles per day. Anyone believing bikers eat that much - every day???

Also, what worth have anti doping policies - if you follow them, and the others not? The competition still is distorted, and unfair. I just imagine what will happening duzring the Olymoics in China. China will make sure at all cost that the Olympics on it's own soild bring golden times to comepnsate for the financial investement, and to raise the prestige. Protection of the health of individual athletes is not really necessary for acchieving that. Of course, other nations will send massively doped athletes as well.

It's not just the Tour, the Tour just seem to be the tip of the iceberg, imo. And that'S why I say: stop the hypocricy around sports. I would like to see doping not only being legalised, but to make it obligatory for every professional athelete. Be honest to the audience, and let every young talent know from the very beginning what he is heading into. at least, that way equal chances will be brought back that way, even if through the backdoor. Since the Olympic spirit is as dead as that mouse I just rolled over with my tank anyway, and sporting events could not survive withoiut being turned into massive sponsoring events and economical showcases, let's be at least honest about the nature of things. Those who feel an obligation to the ideals of free, fair, equal-chanced sporting competition, should stay away from the world championships, Olympics, tours, and whatever there is. Leave the stage to the showactors. Whatever the tour today is: sport in the wider context of certain ideals and a certain spirit has little to do with it. Stop wasting public money into promoting a show for cheating egos, that gives the young ones nothing but false idols.

Becasue if you have not understood that sporting spirit is more than just about winning at all cost, even at the cost of betraying and lying, than you still have something important to learn. Fame is superficial and will fade sooner or later, often it is a question of days only. - The quality of mind and attitude you realized in yourself in the moment of victory or defeat is what will last, and stay with you. and if you see honesty in that exoerience, and the lack of cheating, then it was worth it, no matter how it went. some long time ago there was a marathon event, and short before the line, inside the stadium, one man or woman was stumbling and fell down, exhausted, the one before him/her, in medal ranks, stopped, turned around, grabed the person and helped him/her over the line. I do not remeber the rankling. but for me this was the winner of the race - for he had defeated his own ego. No greater victory and triumph there can be.

by driver do you mean "rider"

Just look at Lyle Alzado.:cry:

That could be John Landy, a truly great Australian.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Landy

No, I do not mean Landy, I mean a marathon race, a wordchampionship or olympics somwhere between the 1988 games in Seoul, and probably 2000. It was dry, very hot, and a clear sunny day. The ladies (I think it were female runners) also were threatened to be disqualified, for helping each other over the line was considered to be against the rules. Don't know if that was made true and they lost their ranking. I think they nevertheless ranked both amongst the top three.

Update: new tour leader and owner of the yellow shirt is Alberto Contador from team Discovery channel. He is a known customer of the doping doctor Fuentes and therefore even shouldn't have been given permission to start at the tour at all.

If a last bomb was needed to bring the whole tour concept down to shatters - this is it.

I think that the title of your topic is perfect. :up: These riders are ruining their own sport. What a nice way to repay the sport that allows them to earn a living not to mention possible fame. :nope:

Allways the same. Remember the "great sport nation" GDR, who was "on first level with US and USSR at Olympics" at the 80's?
All systematicly doped by SED-goverment order...:)

You are absolutely correct, Sky. Cycling has failed to reconcile it's substance abuse policy with reality. Doping exists in every major sport, but cycling seems to be the worst when it comes to frequency and publicity.

I think in the United States there is still the perception it is just a few bad apples.

Read..Barry Bonds.

But I think it was 1992 or 1993 and they had like 20 or 30 guys who hit 50 homeruns. The fans loved it, and baseball said nothing.

Yes, let them dope themselves but keep track of collateral effects: any athlete who dies before some life expectancy mark looses all medals, victories and throphies. So does any athlete that starts requiring dialysis at any age. Anything else? Liver failure too perhaps? And any hormonal therapy I guess.

Now we're back into competition: to see who has the body that can take the greatest amount of trash and survive long enough AND win some events.

I think the sporting press is doing a pretty fine job of keeping us appraised of these events.

We know more about BALCO than we do about Scooter Libby's treasonous behavior.

The advertisements on TV call this 'Real Tough Guys.'

Well with shrunken genitalia from steroid abuse I don't think they are real tough or real guys...

What should have a large amount of prestige is now loaded with controversy, welcome to the new millenium!

the problem is this nearly every sport has went from having characters to having robots with no personality for instance tennis we had macenroe connors borg they had a laugh and a joke and yes even smiled its the same with many sports snooker and to some extent football and golf even formaula one they have become too professional with all the time spent on winning and none on having fun

That's because it all boils down to money these days. Massive prize money along with huge commercial endorsements and sponsorship.

In the words of the fictional character Gordon Gecko from the brilliant film Wall Street, "...greed for a lack of a better word—is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind."

Heck, I loved that speech he made in the film Wall Street that I think it deserves to be added to my sig. :D

McEnroe vs Connors, and later - popular over here - the duels between Leconte and Becker - those were the times!

It's not always that becoming old means to glorify the past. I think many things 20 or more years back really were much better in fact. It seems many people agree on that, at least over here.

Jimmy Connors - a warrior soul who nevertheless never took the game overly serious and always had time for a smile, but still putting his heart into the match. It's just that he seemed to know that there is more valuable things in life than just tennis. I loved to watch him. What is he doing today?

If I see the Sport news on the TV
I,m wondering

if its the Tour de France
or a Game show ''Whois doping!?''

You mean "Who is not doping?" :D

As long as there's money in the business you'll have doping all the time.
Cycling isn't a sport anymore, it's just another form of making money.
And the cyclists are the ones who get the smallest piece of the action.

Same goes for other sports like football, athletics, etc.

Christ, dude. Here I was going to go down through and respond to all those other statements, and then you blew that one out of the water with the two correct sentences. You know, from time to time, you're fairly locked-on.

"Sports" haven't changed. They are still designed to find the people with the best genetic predisposition. In the 21st century, that will be the people who are most able to tolerate the synthetic drugs and hormones. Eventually this will swing over to bionics and depressed immune systems.

I don't much care, except that some of these......advances have application to combat infantry. And it's as good a place as any to test new, unapproved drugs that can bypass the screening system. The screening system is important because it forces corporations to develop new drugs and hormones that are not yet detectable. I've no opinion of whether it's right or wrong, other than everyone should simply be aware of the system's functionality and purpose.

However.

I don't care to see the system applied to children, such as the 10 year old gymnists that everyone uses in the Olympics. Professional adult athletes are responsible for their own choices, but bastards need to be executed for pumping stuff into the kids.

sorry your wrong sport has changed over the years AGENTs have got involved make sport a money thing when before it wasnt so now its about fee's and the agents CUT