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Peto 07-17-07 10:56 AM

S Class not recharging batteries
 
If this subject is already covered elsewhere, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

After installing 1.3 it seems my S Class boats no longer charge their batteries--or at least it takes a Very...Long...Time. Not workable when I like to dive for the day because it takes longer than 1 night to recharge. Has anyone else run into this or is there a fix?

Thank You All for the Great Work You Do!!!!!

Peto

Jace11 07-17-07 02:08 PM

yup i have this too

annoying...

My periscopes dont animate either, pain...

Takes hell of a long time to get a charge... very slow...

Had a quick look at sim file...

She has her diesel eng_power lower than her electrics, checked a few other boats, they are all fine, suggest increase diesel eng_power, maybe that will fix it...

Will test...

Peto 07-17-07 09:01 PM

Thanks Jace! Good thread going over in the general forum too!

Salute!!!

Peto

Jace11 07-18-07 06:39 AM

I increased diesel_eng power to 4200 (still less than a porpoise) it was set at 1200 while electrics were >2000..

Didn't change much, still takes too long to charge up..

Peto 07-18-07 12:30 PM

Thanks for the update Jace! I'm going to try to track down the problem too although you're more experienced with this program than I am. If I discover anything I'll let you know right away.

Cheers!

Peto

Bear 07-18-07 02:09 PM

The problem appears to be in all boats. Someone complained in patch 2 that the batteries were unrealistice. I think the Devs went too far in the other direction. I have also tried the solutions mentioned above, but to little avail. Example: Battery down to 50% off Honshu - halfway between Midway and Pearl on return vovage running at flank speed battery finally recharges. Am I to believe that to be realistic? Help needed Please.

Bando 07-18-07 03:42 PM

It seems to me that running at flank speed is not going to charge the batteries any time soon. With 4 diesels aboard running flank speed, all diesels will be used for propulsion rather than recharging. Normally, the less diesel engines you need for propulsion, the more diesels are available for recharging, hence at slow speed, recharging should be quicker.

Having said that, I think Bear is right. All the boats seem to have this in more or less state, the S class being the worst.
To Jace, the change of Horse power is not going to speed up the recharge proces. I'm not a wizzard, or expert, I tried to set it very high, no change.
Therefore, HP is not the solution. I did not figure out what is, still an ongoing process.

Go4It 07-18-07 06:24 PM

I was going to post a subject on battery recharge till I read this thread. It seems most subs take a long time to recharge, I was almost out of batteries when I got a chance to surface, It took 2 days to recharge.
It seems like it wasn't recharging till I switched between speeds, flank to 1/3 back to flank, an then it started recharging, but vary slowly.
I searched for anything that might refer me to a recharge time but with no luck.
Maybe the dev added a new line that the tweak files don't have?

Mechman 07-18-07 06:30 PM

If somebody figures out how to fix this, maybe it can be rolled together with the battery life mod.

THE_MASK 07-18-07 06:33 PM

Simple fix...when submerged travel at 1 knot during the day...works a treat...

pythos 07-18-07 08:12 PM

The 1200 diesle power for the S boats might be because the S boats had only 2 600 horse power engines. The electric motors were 1175 for the S18 class, and 750 hp for the S-42. (remeber to multiply these figures by two for the full power of the electrics. So indeed the electric motors were more powerful than the surface propulsion.

The porpoise class had 4x1,300hp diesles, and 4x521 hp motors.

The batteries on subs drained quite fast at high loads, and charged quite slow. It did take nearly an entire night's running on the surface at 2/3 speed to charge the batteries. This is why subs were more diving boats than true submarines.

Compared to the German boats, American boats were not all that great, until the advent of the Gato, and Balao class subs. The Uboats could charge batteries quicker, but also had smaller capacity compared to the american ocean cruisers (which aside from the Sboats all american subs of WWII were.).

The charging times may in fact be accurate.

Mechman 07-18-07 11:13 PM

Still, with the lower charge the s-boat batteries hold, a 24 to 36 hour charge time is a bit much.

Peto 07-19-07 12:04 AM

Agreed Mechman. It takes me more than 24 hours to recharge batteries. Much more if they're below half.

While your points are accurate pythos--and well researched :yep: --this problem is a game bug. It makes the S Class pretty much unusable for a Career boat in my opinion.

Cheers All! I'll buy a drink to anyone who figures out this little annoyance. But I'll want to see some ID to make sure you're of legal age LOL.

Peto

Go4It 07-19-07 09:29 PM

I found if I run at slow speed my batteries recharge faster, if I run at flank batteries charge at ~1% per hour.

Bando 07-20-07 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go4It
I found if I run at slow speed my batteries recharge faster, if I run at flank batteries charge at ~1% per hour.

See post 7

Bear 07-20-07 01:46 PM

I will try that, anything other than diving down and sitting still all day to preserve battery life. In patch 2 when they did run down it appeared to me the harder you ran the faster they recharged, but what you say about the engines makes sense. Thanks.

Ducimus 07-20-07 03:48 PM

Try lowering the Emotor Power (by half if neccessary), and offset any speed loss by increasing the top speed porportionate to the speed loss.

Mechman 07-20-07 07:44 PM

What? That just means increasing speed after you cut speed, and doesn't help any.

Peto 07-20-07 11:44 PM

Actually--I see what Ducimus is getting at. True: you're adding speed after cutting speed but you're also cutting the power (hence power requirements) of the electrics.

Has anyone tried this yet? I'm sporting around in the Perch right now and everyone is counting on me to keep the Japanese out of Darwin.

Cheers!

Peto

BH 07-29-07 09:28 AM

Has anyone had any luck fixing the problem with the S-Class?


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