SH4 VS Sh3
 

I have been playing Sh4 and It seems that after my first patrol . .. well its just plain boring compared to sh3 .. anyone have have any comments ?

Wait for a supermod to be release for SH4.

So true..if the modders had not done such a great job with SH III, it would have been on there the shelf for a long time already, collecting dust....

Give it some time, SH IV will be a great game as well.....it only needs some tweaking

SH3 is reaching is goal done by Supermods

SH4 needs to be fully patched by UBI first before mayor mods can be made for her

Time will tell us what SH4 will be over a year, but thats for time to decide

I'm waiting for SHIV to get fixed up a bit before I get it.

The modders will pimp out SH4 the same way they did for SH3. Give 'em time.

Compare Stock SH3 vs. Stock SH4, I would choose SH4. That being said, SH4 is not GWX, but will improve big-time with the next patch and an eventual super-mod. With regards to a super-mod, this is being talked about already.

Lots of great mods for SH4, even this early in the game. Still have GWX on the computer and will continue to play it as well:yep:

RDP

comparing stock SH3 & 4, SH4 is better its just my PC can't cope with it. SH3 & GWX 1.03 is just too good to pass up at the moment, plus I just prefer the atlantic for some reason its just better been german lol:arrgh!:...ALLLAAAAAAARRRM!

Yeah, I am not saying play stock SH3, just if folks are comparing. GWX took SH3 into the stratosphere:yep:

RDP

Silent Hunter 3 vith the SuperMod GWX for me is (in this moment) the best,:rock:
I'm waiting for GWX 1.04:yep: ...Silent Hunter 4 .... brrrrr.. i have installed on 22.3.07
with the patch 1.01.I played 1/2 mission and started one career:hmm: :nope: ,after the patch 1.02 i started a new career, but this game in this moment for me is unplayable. :nope:

I think SHIV will stay unpurchased until it goes the same way as SHIII and gets at LEAST a few decent updates behind it, a supermod will be nice, but hey they're all busy in GWX :rock:

I agree to that! but I just got SH4 oh well, goin to play that first then go bak to GWX 1.03 or 1.04 if it comes out yet.

I hate to say this but -
In my opinion, anyone who boycotts SHIV because its not their chosen theatre - is shooting them selves in the foot.

In a way we owe it to ourselves to go out and purchase SHIV weather we like the Pacific or not, as the sales figures for SHIV will likely seal the fate of the SH franchise. In short, if SHIV is a commercial flop then dont expect Ubi to green light SHV.
In time im sure we will get to return to the atlantic, but only if we can continue to fuel this niche market in a world ruled by first person shooters.

Its not like you can afford to be picky when it comes to subsims anyway.

Whilst I see your point, I am in no way going to run out and buy a half finished game, especially in a theater I'm not at all interested in just to prolong the life of half finished subsims. If Ubisoft had done the magic with SHIV then yes,I'd say your argument holds water,and in all honesty I'd probably buy it(and I still might,in a few years time,when it's been supermodded and the various problems with it are sorted)

But not at the moment matey, I'm happy where I am - NW of Lisbon,ducking air attacks in my IXC:arrgh!:

Off the top of my head, some of the subtle improvements in SH4:

- There is no master RND layer, only a master CFG file, that connects all the different MIS files together. Traffic is seperated by year and type (merchants, convoys, task forces, etc). You can also create sea battles and edit them into the master CFG so they appear in the campaign at a specified date.

- Harbor traffic is not scripted. Its dynamic. It uses an RND layer now. This means, harbor contents change, even during a patrol.

- Random, only the fly mission assigments via submitting contact or status reports.

- "millk cow" support is built iinto the game,and can be done, "on the fly" during a patrol. It does not requrie you to dock and end your patrol.

- Varying missions, other then the usual, "Go here, sit there for X time" grid assignment type missions.

- built in thermal layers that work (a little too well if you ask me :roll: )

Yeah but half finnished subsims are better than nothing, Agreed, we can mod the hell out of a half finnished game, but we cant mod a game that doesnt exist!
In 2009 I think most of us would rather be playing SH5 not Quake5

All im saying is look an SH4 purchase as a long term thing, it will be great when it gets a super mod AND think of it as an investment in the SH Franchise in general, rather than just paying for a one off game.
Its a catch 22,
If there is more support for ' the half finnished subsims' then developers might be allowed bigger rescources and budget to make more complete titles.
the moment we just refuse to by half finnished subsims (an already risky venture for any publisher) - we are bascially sentencing the genre to death.

JU_88 does have a point.
In this list, how many sub sims do you see, and how many are recent games?
http://www.subsim.com/subsim_reviews_index.html

Now, what were the 3 (edit 4) most recent sub games?

# Silent Hunter I, realeased in 1996
# Silent Hunter II, sequel released in 2001.
# Silent Hunter III, sequel released in 2005.
# Silent Hunter 4, released in March 2007


Nobody else is making them. Probably because nobody else wants to, because theres more money to be made in other game genre's. Money is ultimatly the bottom line, its why companies exist.

Yep, If we want to continue to feed our virtual submarine addictions - we need to be looking at the bigger picture.
We are treading on thin ice here.... look at what happened to Tank sims.

What tank sim's?

Exactly!! :yep: