Firearms yes or no
 

As a means of defense, are the use of firearms any less worthy than martial arts?
I attempted to post some parts of the martial arts thread, but, I was unsuccessful.

My opinion is that firearms are no less legitimate as a means of self defense than any other. Am I wrong?

I agree. You can't punch or kick someone across a room...

BUT, in a situation where the fight becomes "CQ" (Close Quarters), firearms loose quite a bit of advantage. In all, it depends on the situation you're in.

Yes but you have to put your opponent in a room
And that's it's not so simple if your opponent it's more dinamic
and depends on knowledge of the situation

I don't think guns are really as good as Martial Arts when it comes to defending ones self. As to my mind, a gun is an offensive weapon which epitomises the saying, "the best defence is a good offence" guns can kill, Martial Arts can kill, but a skilled Martial Artist cannot accidentally kill someone, they have to do it deliberately, which if they do makes them a murderer. But you can unintentionally kill someone with a gun, there is a good chance of that.

However, both a gun, and Martial Arts knowledge in the wrong hands can be lethal.

And if the opponent puts himself in your bedroom..., it's .357 bullet through his noggin.



That kind of thinking is bad. Anyone, MA master or the most accurate shooter in the world, can kill someone unintentionally.

Hahahahahaha
You are so funny

Ah, so in your mind a MA master is infallable? That's how accidents happen.:yep:

Oh really? And this kind of thinking is good then;

When it comes to defence of your property and family, yes.

You don't know what you are sayng dear.
If you put a gun in front and ...bang.....the error it's not
the bang...but to put the gun in front

Well I'll have to remember that in case I murder someone, I can say I was defending myself so it was ok.

I took the above quote from the 'Martial Arts' thread I believe it comes from 1mPHUNit0 (that's a mouthful).

As I said B4 all these attributes come into play with defence using a firearm, perhaps even more so.

Yes, I do know what I'm saying. Thanks for trying to clarify, though.

Otherwise, you're saying I should just let the intruder have a field day in my home? Not everyone is a MA master, you know. (I know P-G is going to say "And not everyone is a good shot, either:know:)

Yes.

I can give you a very clear answer from the legal point of view -as far as spanish laws concern, of course, as those are the ones I know- and that is: If you are on a one vs. one situation, as a general rule if you use a gun where the other has no weapons you are screwed legally. The exemption of criminal responsability would never be appreciated as complete, and as such you would more than probably jailed, even if acting in self defence.

I agree with all you said except with the above quote. My experience tells me that as long as any risky action is involved, a probaility -even if minor- of hurting or even killing someone, exists. I can well remember when sparring at the boxing club how some guys got "accidentally" K.O. even using helmet and big gloves. It sure was their fault by doing an incorrect movement the adversary could not expect -a novice move many times- but the result didn't change that ;)

Accidents happen, and martial arts are an activity prone to them, trust me.

No dear
A gun in hand change the situation.
Change:
Stability
Dynamics
Calm
knowledge

Yes, it changes it from someone robbing your house to that someone leaving the house, either to the hospital or in a body bag.

What is your definition of murder Penelope? I was talking about self defense.

No, its not so
There are position of blocking
and others positions that kill noting even if you want