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03-26-07 06:38 PM

Executive Priveledge
 
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What do you think it is?

Enigma 03-26-07 07:11 PM

Here, I'll take the bait for you.

What do I think it is? I think it's murky, abused, subject to massive wim and interpretation, and not legally binding. However, I understand its advantages and neccesity in alot of cases.

03-26-07 07:14 PM

I think the privelege is all about seperation of powers. COTUS has its powers, SCOTUS has its powers and POTUS has his.

Tchocky 03-26-07 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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What do you think it is?

Misspelled?

jumpy 03-26-07 07:16 PM

You mean after he's retired, the president or whomever gets to have one secret service assasination hit on a person of his choice. Gratis, no questions asked? :lol:

Enigma 03-26-07 07:17 PM

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Misspelled?


:lol:

bradclark1 03-26-07 07:31 PM

It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

Enigma 03-26-07 07:33 PM

Yeah, thats exactly what I was saying. It's not legally binding, and is vastly used to cover up things the administration in question would find damaging.

03-26-07 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

Tchocky 03-26-07 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.

Are you referring to a specific case here? I thought Executive privilege applies only to actions directed at the President, such as Nixon's tapes, and Jeffersons letters? I don't think the actions/possessions of DOJ officials fall under the aegis of executive priviledge. I'm open to correction here..


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PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.
I'll try to sleep tonight :)

bradclark1 03-26-07 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

You haven't said anything in this comment except your belief that executive privilege gives you the right to lie.

03-26-07 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

You haven't said anything in this comment except your belief that executive privilege gives you the right to lie.

Please tell me where I said that.

bradclark1 03-26-07 07:50 PM

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OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?
Thats what I take this as.

03-26-07 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?
Thats what I take this as.

Then you take it wrong.

Tchocky 03-26-07 07:52 PM

You're really stretching it there, Brad. I don't think Exec Privilege goes that far.
You referring to something in particular, w_g?

bradclark1 03-26-07 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
You're really stretching it there, Brad. I don't think Exec Privilege goes that far.
You referring to something in particular, w_g?

Well, maybe a little.
The only time I have heard executive privilege invoked is when that information would be embarrassing to the president or vice president at the time, with the reasoning that it wasn't the information that was sensitive it was about setting a precedent in giving that information. The last I heard was in regards to the VP in 2002 in regard to energy policy. Enron anyone?
This is how the Supreme Court states it:
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the valid need for protection of communications between high Government officials and those who advise and assist them in the performance of their manifold duties" and that "[h]uman experience teaches that those who expect public dissemination of their remarks may well temper candor with a concern for appearances and for their own interests to the detriment of the decisionmaking process."
It's a way to avoid direct confrontation.

Bort 03-26-07 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

If they are suspected of wrongdoing, I don't see why not. The Presidents staffers even more so, because they carry powers often exceeding what seem to be rather mundane titles. The people, congress and the courts have the right to know if unethical or illegal activities are taking place at any level of government.

03-26-07 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bort
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

If they are suspected of wrongdoing, I don't see why not. The Presidents staffers even more so, because they carry powers often exceeding what seem to be rather mundane titles. The people, congress and the courts have the right to know if unethical or illegal activities are taking place at any level of government.

I agree. A governmental standstill would be good.

The Avon Lady 03-27-07 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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What do you think it is?

A dotted line. :88)

robbo180265 03-27-07 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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What do you think it is?

A dotted line. :88)

I'm with you on that one:D


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