Deck Gun Ammo ?
 

I took a look but could find any answers so I hope someone can help.

I run SH3, 1.4b patch, and NYGM 2.2.

I am using the deck gun to finish off small ships but can't seem to select AP rounds.
My weapons allotment show 40+ rounds but I can't seem to select them and the crew just use HE round.

Any thoughts

Vader

I dont use NYGM have you done any other tweaking??

You mean with the deck gun manned, you click on the AP icon bottom right and nothing happens? I can't say that I've seen that so far.

No changes to files at all.

I went back and rechecked something..I was trying to load 20m AP rounds lol.

When I rechecked my weapons load out I saw the AP but didn't check it closely and missed the 20mm.....

How do I get AP rounds for the 88mm gun ?

Thanks in advance sorry for mixup
Vader

I've found this same issue using the GWX mod as well. As I don't use my deck gun that much, I just let it go--but I only EVER have HE rounds for any deck gun (88 or 10.5). Maybe AP rounds for the deck gun isn't realistic?

J

Edit: My poor grammar.

Thje rason for no choice of ammo would be probably the same as in GWX:
Source: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=102398

But if you wish to change your stored ammo, you could do it by modyfying file:
C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\Data\Cfg\basic.cfg
and reediting the lines:
Hints:
1. Keep the total number of 'cans' equal to that from before.
2. Keep the nuimber of shells in one 'can' equal to that from before.
3. Keep the number of shells of a kind in a number that is dividable by the number of shells that fit in one can (i.e. if there are 40 shells in 1 can, it's best to set them total as 40, 80, 120 or 160, not 90 nor 30).

AP is not realistic :nope: If you must change the amounts in the Basic Cfg file then don't forget to edit the 'Max Ammo Per Slot' amonts to match your earlier changes as well....just as a precaution :yep:

The GWX mod takes out this ammo all together along with starshells. As stated above, the uboat had none. Including the AP. I forget who asked it but what would a U-boat need starshells for anyway? Gee Cappy, I cannot see the convoy, OK, fire off some starshells so we can see what's happening. Would'nt that be something with a few DD around....hello, we are over here but that is ok because we see you also:o

I like my HE with GWX. They are effective and the big boom gets Bernard excited.

additonally
 

Specifically for GWX the team disabled ammo availability in the menu as well
which is why you see no Icons when your in the gun screen in order
to make it avaialable you would have to make it available in menu cfg

will pm details after work/.
MM

There useful for Suface engagements at night against indidual ships.

Yeah maybe but as they didnt carry them you dont get them
Be like driving about in a Ucruiser
:rotfl:

I believe you are ridiculing me.
 

I smack thee wiith a wet halibut. (SMACK)
:|\\mm

Thanks gents for all the info and help.

I am an old SH2 sub driver from day one and while I have followed SH3 since day one it wasn't until only recently when I bought a new rig that I could actually play the game.

I enjoy a realistic game experience so I am all good with having no AP rounds.

Just a small followup ? the "Aim at hull" and "aim at water line" are basically useless commands as the HE round don't effect the hull but only the cargo,command structure etc...is this correct?

Thanks in advance
Vader

the general advice is that aim for waterline is the most effective means
of sinking.
MM

Aim just below the waterline in various places along the hull to initiate flooding in numerous compartments. The ships sink due to 'flooding' now :arrgh!:

Re Deck gun ammo
 

Hi There,
I think if you use SH3 mini tweaker you can change the ammunition outfit there, in GUNS_sub_sim. Hope this helps.
RR

Merchant (and destroyer) hulls were unarmored, and never more than 1/2" (12.7mm) thick. HE rounds were actually better against this type of target, as an AP round might not encounter enough resistance to make it explode.

The smallest ship to carry armor in any navy was the light cruiser, usually with 3-4 inches of face-hardened armor, which a 3.46" (8.8cm) round might not penetrate anyway. If you want to carry AP shells and fight those on the surface, be my guest.:dead:

As for starshells and night actions, if you can see it well enough for a torpedo then you can see it well enough for a deck gun. You really don't want to light up the night sky when you're in a submarine.

IIRC there really isnt much difference between the HE and AP ingame anyway

As always gents a weath of info thanks very much.....Hans man the deck gun!!!!

Vader

I know this thread is from 2007 but I haven't been able to find any info searching on google for a couple of hours.

I'm not using GWX but have the same problem because of ahnenerbe widegui
(ref to the problem: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...215433&page=34 if you read along the next 10 posts or so)
in that thread no one has an answer, but I suspect the same thing has been done for the widegui to be compatible with all those mega mods that do away with AP and SS shells, the only problem is for those of us that don't use the mega mods and have a very limit amount of HE shells and have AP and SS shells onboard that we can not use.

I wish Mush had just replied to this thread with how to enable it via menu cfg but seen as he only PM'ed it, does anyone else know how to get them back in the UI?

To clarify, AP and SS shells are onboard my boat (only using wide GUI and SH commander mods), just can't select them as their UI elements are missing from the deck gun view.

Sorry again to being back this old thread but thank you for any help you can give.