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U-533 01-15-07 05:36 AM

WHO's hat is in the ring?
 
Obama? ...is that how it's spelled?

A Muslim President...:hmm:

2008 should be a turning point here in America...

joea 01-15-07 05:49 AM

Do you think before writing? Barack Obama is Chrstian according to the wikpedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama#Personal_life

Quote:

While working at the corporate law firm Sidley Austin LLP in the summer of 1989, Obama met Michelle Robinson, then an associate attorney at the firm. They married in 1992, and have two daughters, Malia (born 1999) and Sasha (born 2001). The Obamas are members of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.[113][114] Of his religious affiliation, Obama has written:
I was drawn to the power of the African American religious tradition to spur social change. [...] In the history of these struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world. [...] It was because of these newfound understandings–that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice, or otherwise retreat from the world that I knew and loved–that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.[115]

(Footnote)
  1. ^ Obama (2006), pp. 207-208. Excerpted in: Obama, Barack. "My Spiritual Journey", TIME, October 23, 2006. Retrieved on January 13, 2007.
Really just becasue his name sounds like Osama, you can be more thoughtful. :nope:

U-533 01-15-07 05:58 AM

As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so.

Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it.:)

P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

joea 01-15-07 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533
As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so.

Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it.:)

P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

Chaotic42 01-15-07 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joea
Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

His grandfather is Muslim and his name appears to come from an Arabic word (Link-http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...k_hussein.html).

I don't think he has a chance of winning. I'd like to see Colin Powell, but he's said that he won't run. Just as long as Hillary Clinton doesn't win...

bradclark1 01-15-07 09:15 AM

I may very well give Hillary a go. Obama does not have enough experience yet in the political arena. Powell won't run, period. McCain for some reason makes me feel uneasy in a president roll. No one else floats my boat.
Father-Son, Husband-Wife. Seems logical to me. :)

The Avon Lady 01-15-07 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic42
I'd like to see Colin Powell

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3...ttleposhq9.jpg

The Avon Lady 01-15-07 09:21 AM

My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

Konovalov 01-15-07 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

You mean this guy?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...lov/Bolton.jpg

baggygreen 01-15-07 09:29 AM

I reckon you might be surprised by Hillary, I think somehow she is a lot less... soft than billy (although he proved himself otherwise..:doh: ) Anyways, I reckon she might surprise you if given a chance.

Nothing fights harder than a mother defending her offspring....:hmm:

The Avon Lady 01-15-07 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

You mean this guy?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...lov/Bolton.jpg

No. More like this guy:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9...oseveltvo9.jpg

Bully! Bully!

Konovalov 01-15-07 10:20 AM

Ah, he looks a respectable figure if not a little dated. I prefer the photo of him in his dear skin hunting gear and rifle.

Schatten 01-15-07 06:43 PM

Ollie North for President!

Barring that, I like the Avon Lady's pick.

As far as Obama is concerned I really don't care if he's a Muslim, Mormon or a Jew, but he simply isn't qualified to lead a Junior College debating team let alone a nation. That's it and that's that.

Ducimus 01-15-07 07:57 PM

I'd vote for Powell if he would run. A president and commander in cheif, i feel should have a good background in the military. Not a draft dodger, and not a fortunate son hiding from the draft in the air reserves. What's more he isnt a necon warhawk, and gives me the impression he would behave more wisely then the current crackpot.

The fact that he wont run tells me he's the right man for the job, and knows better then to jump into the crock of schitt that the oval office will be when Jr hands off his mess to the next president.

GSpector 01-15-07 11:19 PM

I agree, I'd vote for Powell if he would run too. The 1st and Primary job of the President of the United States is to protect this Country. Everything else comes second. Something the Clintons had no clue about. Both Oliver North and Colen Powell know this and would now how to do this, And still maintain the piece because they both know both sides of combat and would do what ever it take to prevent combat but would never back down when it came time to step up to bat.

I did not care for Hilary when she was playing Ms President before and I'm sure I'll like her less if it's for real.

Bort 01-15-07 11:44 PM

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Ollie North for President!
:rotfl:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...h_mug_shot.jpg

Ahh yes, Mr. North, that pillar of our community that was convicted of three felonies and only barely avoided prison. (Yes I know the convictions were overturned but only on a technicality.)

Barack Obama, however, would make an excellent President. I have witnessed his rise from a mere state legislator here in Illinois to the US Senate, and throughout he has proven himself to be intelligent, hardworking and honest. I can care less if he's christian, muslim or voodoo- he is eminately qualified for the job.:know:

Bort 01-15-07 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
My pick: John Bolton.

Anything less just won't do.

You mean this guy?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...lov/Bolton.jpg

No. More like this guy:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9...oseveltvo9.jpg

Bully! Bully!

I'm fairly certain, having undertaken much study into Theodore Roosevelt, that he wouldn't be saying bully to Mr. Bolton. Probably something much less positive. Bolton was IMHO a total loser that couldn't even get confirmed by a REPUBLICAN senate for the UN job, and then after Bush subverted the legislature with a recess appointment was almost universally despised by his colleagues at the UN.

GSpector 01-16-07 12:18 AM

From what i remember about Oliver North was that he was turned into a Scapegoat and he only got off those charges because He brought the entire Government blunder to the Public's attention and they could not hide the truth.

Frame ups are the way of our Government/Military to prevent those that are truely guilty from being cought. That's why Oliver North was let go on a Technicality. He did what he was told and he got cought and then turned into a Scapegoat to cover up the truth. He agreed to keep his mouth closed and they let him go in a way that did not say "Oops, we messed up".

Schatten 01-16-07 12:34 AM

Col. North was convicted but what a lot of people don't get is when he took the Fifth Amendment it wasn't to protect himself, it was to protect national security. For some that may not be a very important distinction but to me it is. There's no way he could actually get elected, but for my money he'd be exactly the sort of President we need right now, and that's not something I can say about any of the people who've already said they were going to run in '08 be they Democrat or Republican.

The only thing I've seen Obama do, is be Obama. Which is appearently enough if the media loves ya...

The way the world is right now it's important that we have someone as President who isn't just going to be there, but actually will be prepared to make some very tough decisions that some people, or a lot of people even, won't like. We're in the Age of Terror here and can't simply have another Poll Watcher President who's afraid of offending anyone, even the people that want to do us harm.

Chaotic42 01-16-07 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Chaotic42
I'd like to see Colin Powell

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3...ttleposhq9.jpg

That's very... odd...

Do you have a picture that describes what policies of Powell's that you don't like?


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