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tmdgm 01-11-07 11:19 PM

GWX - How to tune down destroyers?
 
Is there a way to tune down destroyers with GWX? When a destroyer spots me from 8000 meters, tracks me and sinks me at silent running, IN 1939!!!! :rotfl:, doesn't sound much like the history books. 1943 and later, probably.

Anyhoo, just wondering.

Iron Budokan 01-11-07 11:20 PM

Nope, you just have to learn to take it up the *** without soap like the rest of us.:rotfl:

fredbass 01-11-07 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tmdgm
Is there a way to tune down destroyers with GWX? When a destroyer spots me from 8000 meters, tracks me and sinks me at silent running, IN 1939!!!! :rotfl:, doesn't sound much like the history books. 1943 and later, probably.

Anyhoo, just wondering.

Just make sure you're running at 2k speed when running silent. The Dec23rd fix has changed that automatically for you, if you haven't enabled it already.

Kpt. Lehmann 01-12-07 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tmdgm
Is there a way to tune down destroyers with GWX? When a destroyer spots me from 8000 meters, tracks me and sinks me at silent running, IN 1939!!!! :rotfl:, doesn't sound much like the history books. 1943 and later, probably.

Anyhoo, just wondering.

Read page 10 in your GWX manual.

cobalt 01-12-07 03:02 AM

quick question

in gwx late war, does the asdic used by the allies get stronger and ping deeper?

andy_311 01-12-07 04:07 AM

Trust me come late 44-45 you raise that periscope just an inch and your stealth meter goes redder than a beetroot.I had 7 Fletchers on my back last night,and they wern't very happy to see me,then a bit later I had anouther 7 on my back.(story is in the video thread posted it in the wrong thread).

HundertzehnGustav 01-12-07 04:12 AM

i fiddled with the gwx sensors... and am pleased with the results...

so i take it i put it on the web for people to take?

Kpt. Lehmann 01-12-07 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cobalt
quick question

in gwx late war, does the asdic used by the allies get stronger and ping deeper?

Both enemy crews and sensor tech become more effective.

Corsair 01-12-07 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tmdgm
Is there a way to tune down destroyers with GWX? When a destroyer spots me from 8000 meters, tracks me and sinks me at silent running, IN 1939!!!! :rotfl:, doesn't sound much like the history books. 1943 and later, probably.

Anyhoo, just wondering.

If a destroyer spotted you that far away, you surely did something you shouldn't have done. Just start thinking realistic tactics...:D

Ole 01-12-07 06:04 AM

i got the same problem. i had no torpedos left, and a small merchant with an armed trawler were spotted (distance over 6500m). i decided to dive, stopped the engines and wanted to let them pass. the trawler found me, directly when distance was about 3000m. my engines were off, i switched to schleichfahrt before, so no torpedos were loading or repair was done.
he dropped what he had with him, i made my depth to 100m, i tried to avoid showing a big silhouette. he had no problems to find me again and again.
i mean, that was an armed trawler and its still 1940.
what can i do? i donīt want an easy gameplay, but it should be realistic, plz :cry:

Jimbuna 01-12-07 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan
Nope, you just have to learn to take it up the *** without soap like the rest of us.:rotfl:

OMG :o

Mine remains a funnel...and certainly not a tunnel:rotfl:

melnibonian 01-12-07 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Budokan
Nope, you just have to learn to take it up the *** without soap like the rest of us.:rotfl:

OMG :o

Mine remains a funnel...and certainly not a tunnel:rotfl:

Classic as always Jim:up: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Kumando 01-12-07 06:45 AM

I dont seem to find any problems with destroyers in GWX you people claim, im in 1939, i did my first patrol had many encounters with destroyers and only one managed to damage my aft torpedo tubes, i could evade all the others running silent, deep whean i had the chance and always changing course for not being predictable.I had no difficulties at all and im a newbie player, maybe as the years go by this will change.

melnibonian 01-12-07 06:49 AM

Problems with DDs do not occur in 1939, but later in the war. After 1943 evading a DD is a real challenge. Early in the war things are sort of OK and if you're a bit careful you can avoid them without a real problem. Later though..........

Jimbuna 01-12-07 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Budokan
Nope, you just have to learn to take it up the *** without soap like the rest of us.:rotfl:

OMG :o

Mine remains a funnel...and certainly not a tunnel:rotfl:

Classic as always Jim:up: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:roll: ;)

Kumando 01-12-07 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian
Problems with DDs do not occur in 1939, but later in the war. After 1943 evading a DD is a real challenge. Early in the war things are sort of OK and if you're a bit careful you can avoid them without a real problem. Later though..........

But thats the way it was back then ;).

Oesten 01-12-07 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ole
i got the same problem. i had no torpedos left, and a small merchant with an armed trawler were spotted (distance over 6500m). i decided to dive, stopped the engines and wanted to let them pass. the trawler found me, directly when distance was about 3000m. my engines were off, i switched to schleichfahrt before, so no torpedos were loading or repair was done.
he dropped what he had with him, i made my depth to 100m, i tried to avoid showing a big silhouette. he had no problems to find me again and again.
i mean, that was an armed trawler and its still 1940.
what can i do? i donīt want an easy gameplay, but it should be realistic, plz :cry:

Your engines were off, so the trawler couldn't have heard you. Fine.

But was your periscope up? If so, maybe he spotted it and came to investigate.

Morts 01-12-07 08:53 AM

if you have full Hull go down to 200+ meters (if the depth allows it) with flank speed while zigzaggin a little then when you're past 170 go silent running (2 kts) and stop zigzaggin
helps alot i have avoided alot of destroyers down there

i dont really know any shallow water tactics since i dont go there
and i dont go to harbors either since water is shallow there to

Vikinger 01-12-07 09:50 AM

Download a program called SH3 Mini Tweaker.

Whitin that program you can change the file AI sensor dat.

Ive tuned down a few values my self there coz i found it impossible to escape an elite crew on a DD. Its not easy to get rid of them but its possible now whit some tactical maneouvers.

Things i changed was hydrophone, sonar and visual.
I changed maxbearing to be little more narrow and that allow me to do tactical manevours. I also tuned down max range and increased min range a bit.
Now they dont spot me from 9km away and if they find me the minimum range simulate a "dead" zone so they aproximitly know where iam. Hard to pin point exact where iam like they where using a gps navigatior :)

I also tuned down Min height values for underwater. I noticed that even if i dived so deep so my sub was crusched the range for Min height was greater than the sub crusch depth. (this was in a VIIC)

I dunno if my values reflect realism but its possible to escape now by going deep(but not to deep so my sub is crusched and it also allow me to have some minor hulldamage as well) and do tactical maneouvers ( stay out from thier max bearing range)
And also that they can`t pinpoint me exactly where iam.

Hartmann 01-12-07 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumando
I dont seem to find any problems with destroyers in GWX you people claim, im in 1939, i did my first patrol had many encounters with destroyers and only one managed to damage my aft torpedo tubes, i could evade all the others running silent, deep whean i had the chance and always changing course for not being predictable.I had no difficulties at all and im a newbie player, maybe as the years go by this will change.

for this 1939 -40 was called "happy times"

Allies donīt use radars and they set depth charges not very deep.also asw tecnology was not very advanced, and planes availability very limited.

until 41 or more could be very difficult if not impossible heard a stopped submarine at some distance with passive hidrophones in silent running.
(no engines and screws turning, pumps stopped,everybody quiet and silent)

Later, with better active asdic, enigma codes and pouring planes over the atlantic sea allies can turning the tide in the war.


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