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Reece 12-08-06 05:46 AM

Anyone have pictures of U-boat Log Book.
 
Hi, I would like to get hold of a picture of the cover & blank page (page with no entries) of a U-Boat Captains log book. If someone can help could you please PM me for email address, post a picture, or point me to where I can get a snapshot please.:D
Many Thanks in advance.

Reece 12-08-06 11:35 PM

WOW so many offers!!
 
I'm amazed at the overwhelming response!:rotfl:
I just emailed http://uboat.net/ for some help here & hope for some response!
Fingers crossed!:lol:
Cheers.

Venatore 12-09-06 12:40 AM

I'm ya wingman on this one mate. :yep:

Jmack 12-09-06 02:01 AM

u47.org in the downloads section

but i believe this is not what you are looking for

anyway i found this one wich i belive is a comunications logbook
http://www.enigma-replica.com/Bletchley/logbook.JPG

and a few more

http://usmbooks.com/images/SCHNITGER/Flieg1.jpg

Jmack 12-09-06 02:24 AM

this says ... torpedo boat log bookhttp://www.level60.com/ebay/ammo/ger...orpedoboat.jpg

Jmack 12-09-06 02:26 AM

manual for prinz eugen

http://www.level60.com/ebay/ammo/ger...rinzEugen0.jpg

Jmack 12-09-06 02:33 AM

you might want to try also this link ... but i belive some of the items here are forbiden in some countries ... so i wont post pictures from this link

look in the kriegsmarine section

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Galleries/Paper.html

Reece 12-09-06 03:00 AM

Thanks for the help JMack, & will chase up the websites provided, will email them for some good snapshots, I can't read german so makes things a little harder but can use Googles language converter if I need to. Probably more essential for a shot of one of the pages.:yep: I think you will agree!

Reece 12-09-06 03:38 AM

Unfortunately the email address for www.u47.org is a dud, I just get an error, I couldn't find any downloads there except for some wallpapers & a map.:cry:
Will keep trying though!:up:

DerXL 12-09-06 04:55 AM

I suppose you're looking for the so-called KTB or Kriegstagebuch, which is in essence a logbook in which the position of the U-boot at certain intervals and other events (like torpedo-runs, sightings, under attack, communications etc.) are noted.

Sadly this is (still) not available in SH3 :nope:, so (as the idiot that I am :doh:- or so my girlfriend thinks), I write all these events down on a piece of paper. Just for my own fun, because I don't really use it for anything else. It's just an immersion factor for me.

The template for my KTB I've taken from several (copies) of KTB's I have in possesion. I purchased them from someone on eBay. I could scan a few pages but I don't want to kill his bussines though, so I'll give you his eBay name; He is called "wemsen".

By the way, I am not connected to this person in any way. I just purchased several KTB's and copies of original photo's from him. He is a good seller with reasonable prices, and at the moment he has several KTB's for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/U-Boot-Kriegstag...QQcmdZViewItem.

Hope this helped a bit.
If you don't want to buy from him, but would like some scans from me just send me a pm...;)

Regards,
DerXL

Corrupt_File 12-09-06 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece
Unfortunately the email address for www.u47.org is a dud, I just get an error, I couldn't find any downloads there except for some wallpapers & a map.:cry:
Will keep trying though!:up:

Works for me...
Here's the link for the logbook
http://www.u47.org/downloads/u47log_map.zip

Reece 12-09-06 08:08 PM

Hi, the download is only for the map, & it's the email (contact us) link that is dead!
Thanks DerXL but I am not going to pay for a picture of a Kriegstagebuch cover and blank page, I'm not interested in the contents just the layout to do basically what you have done creating a KTB (if this is the U-Boats Commanders log book).

Jmack 12-09-06 08:13 PM

no one is telling you to pay ... just use the photo as reference

Reece 12-09-06 08:45 PM

Hi Jmack, if I missunderstood, I'm sorry, but it doesn't read that way:
Quote:

I could scan a few pages but I don't want to kill his bussines though, so I'll give you his eBay name; He is called "wemsen".

By the way, I am not connected to this person in any way. I just purchased several KTB's and copies of original photo's from him. He is a good seller with reasonable prices, and at the moment he has several KTB's for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/U-Boot-Kriegstagebuch-U-460-vom-24-12-41-bis-16-10-43_W0QQitemZ120061686199QQihZ002QQcategoryZ15509QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
You would think it easy to find, I went to the link but the pictire quality is too poor to read the titles (headings), and if I was to place a bid I assume that he is expecting, including post around $20 for a photocopy of 1 page!! (Note I can't read German). Seems like a rip off to me!
I think I might give up on this!:down:

bigboywooly 12-09-06 08:51 PM

Try this Reece

http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTBFormat.htm

Heres one from WW1 lol

http://www.ub88.org/ktbproject.html

Or this

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-220U256log.htm

Jmack 12-09-06 09:24 PM

this one looks very good ...bigboywooly has a few nice links up there http://www.ub88.org/images/ktb/ktbsmall.jpg

Reece 12-09-06 11:17 PM

This is good!
 
Thanks, this is good!:D Now could someone reprint the following headings in German for setting up the heading/format for a new blank page please?:)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...k/Headings.jpg
The site given by Bigboywooly has the Headings translated already, so that saves a job!:up:
They also had a copy of the front cover on the main page, should be able to do something with this, assume this says the date.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../Coverdate.jpg
Just got to figure out what to do with it now!:lol:

JScones 12-10-06 12:37 AM

Two things perhaps to consider:

1. The use of Fraktur fonts in *new* KTBs seems to have ceased around mid/end 1941 (after Bormann's January edict). It was replaced with Antiqua fonts.

2. From early 1942 the format apparently became more of a standard essay. The bottom example in the link that BBW posted - http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTBFormat.htm - shows the new style.

One KTB I have dating from 1943 (perhaps the essay style wasn't overly popular with anyone other than Doenitz, LOL!) shows the headings as:

* Datum und Uhrzeit
* Angabe des Ortes, Wind, Wetter, Seegang, Beleuchtung, Sichtigheit [sp?] der Luft, Mondschein USW
* Vorkommnisse

Essentially the same as the image above.

Another, which I think is newer, simply shows the headings as:

* Tag Uhrzeit
* Ort Wetter
* Vorkommnisse

With a vertical running "Heftrand" written in the, surprise surprise, margin. ;)

Both use an Antiqua family font.

I remember researching all this when I first built the KTB feature into SH3Cmdr - it uses a compromise between history and SH3.

Reece 12-10-06 01:41 AM

Hi Jaesen, thanks for the translation, I will see if I have, or can get the fonts.
Altimately once the artwork is done I could just post for people to printout to make up a book, but what would be better is finding a log program that has a hot key to bring it up, but I don't know if the hot key will work in the game, may cause too many problems, getting the game to accept keyboard characters to a notepad is out I think. We really need a programmer with plenty of spare time to waste!!:rotfl::rotfl:Sorry about that!
Cripes this weather sucks, haven't heard about the Vic fires today, hope they have it under control!:cry: Anyway any advise you may give I'd appreciate it.
Cheers.

Jmack 12-10-06 12:25 PM

actually ... its not a bad idea ... a logbook where you can write your own notes , maybe Sh3 comander can add this feature in future versions


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