Alleged Russian Spy Caught in Canada
 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...onage-mtl.html

:o What is this all about? Is Russia still spying on us, even though the Cold War is over and the Soviet Union has collapsed? And why would they bother spying on Canada? (It's not like we're one of the greatest military powers in the world:cool:). Or maybe it's just a mistake.

BTW - This wasn't posted here before, was it?

Canada isn't the greatest power, and probably will never be. However Canada has many technological companies way ahead of Russian counterpart, and worth spying on. Russia does that to all G7 countries, and even non G7.
That's how they managed to do many things up to date. If it wasn't for spying, Russia would still be in the 70's in terms of military technology, they simply don't have the means for the research, and that is extra money. They can hardly nourish their people evenly coast to coast, their PPP is 62nd in the world. :-?

Theres alot russia can spy on canada is just one of many countries and yes spying still goes on.

So, somewhere there´s a 007 chasing the bad guys? :cool:

It aint no mistake. Even NZ gets spied on and were a threat to no one.:ping:

Thats what we wantet you to think, MUHAHAHAHA!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YIRT7HWEXnA

:lol:

I just love how people seem surprised that Russia still spies on the west just because teh Cold war is over. No on estopped spying on anyone. Everyone spies on everyone else.

The US on the UK, the UK on France etc...

I disagree with Perilscope about how the Soviets lacked funds for research, there whole setup was geared to military research, they lagged behind in some areas of electronics mainly semiconductor research but to say they would have stayed in the 70's without spying is over egging the pudding. There are/were numerous areas where they were ahead.

Also there is teh question of pragmatism. Why spend millions researching what someone else has when you can just steal it, study it and in some areas improve on it.

Don't think the UK never did that on ol' Uncle Sam.

Spying
 

Ah, I see now.:hmm: I can see the spies are being deported in the present age - I think I have read of spies being deported from various countries during the Cold War as well. Would it have ever been common (either during the Cold War or now) for them to have been executed?

Wasn't there a submarine type who spied on the US for Isreal?
As has been said every nation spies on every other nation, peace time relations or not.

They have value in trades. The US and USSR used to trade their captive spies all the time. Gary Powers is one example.

Absolutley, the Rosenbergs, although treason was the charge. Benedict Arnold for the same reason. Expulsions for espionage is more common with the UN in NYC and many embassies in DC. It works both ways however, there have been many fueds where countries expell each others diplomats over espionage.

Also there is an unwrtten rule that you don't bump each other spies off and I think that goes for execution too.

Look at the Cambridge five. I suppose under treason laws they could have been shot but sometimes it is worth letting them go just to see who they go to.

I think that sometimes they might let a spy continue his spying to see who their contact is they just let him see wrong information that he and the enemy whoever it is thinks is right.

everyone spies on everyone else simple fact of life you do it every day so countries do it to each other

Spying and Canada
 

I just wonder, does anyone know if Canada itself is spying on anyone else? Are there any reports of Canadian spies in other countries? Or are we too weak and complacent?:oops:

Surely Canada has an intelligence service?

I blame the Zionists. It's a Zionist conspiracy. They took over the Illuminati. It's a bunch of fat, rich Jews sitting around drinking Manishevitz and eating olives, trying to figure out how to gain more power. Without having to leave the protective confines of their beloved Zion because it is the center of all culture and affluence. (<---- Jewish parody)

Seriously, though. Putin is a strange one. On the one hand, you cannot just institute voting in a nation and call it a success. You have to to literate your population, increase productivity such that people have time to pay attention to politics, and then you have got to increase communication such that people find it profitable to discuss politics. China is going about it the right way. God knows I wish we had done things after World War II the way China is going about it. China has been preventing it's yellow-bellied cowards from breeding out of control, but giving people incentive to achieve and "own" property.

Putin wants a Venezula-like dictatorship, with the benefits of an anti-American niche. It's a "niche" that so many others are attempting to profit from, it's not going to be long before they are actively competing against one another.



So, the "Cold War" has ended, but Russia isn't anywhere near an ally.

So name a few things that Russia is ahead of the USA or allies? Maybe you will come up with a bigger list than what I have below: :D

1- Precision bombing(GBU, SB) = Russia behind
2- Night Vision technologies = Russia slightly behind
3- Engines (all areas) = Russia behind
4- Metal alloys = Russia behind
5- Fly by Wire(FBWS) = Russia behind
6- Electronic Combat(ECR) = Russia behind
7- Stealth technologies = Russia way behind
8- Avionics = Russia slightly behind
9- Laser technologies = Russia slightly behind
10- Smart Bullets = Russia way behind
11- Pure electronics = Russia behind
And the list goes on...

As far I am concerned, the above mentioned are very important and key elements in military superiority. Compared to Russia being ahead for the biggest Nuke, biggest rocket booster, chemical bombs, bigger guns and weird prototypes designed to impress but never hit production...

And in the real combat zone, they are still behind in the joint tactical information distribution systems method, which nowadays, it's all about that, they can't afford to modernize.

Without reverse engineering our technologies, Russia would simply not be where they are now.
In present days, that they would be in the 60's 70 or 80's, it doesn't matter; it's just a way to say they are behind. The point is they are behind in key elements fault of research, which they never had the money for it anyway without compromising the prosperity in all economical area, not only militarily.

Apart for a few big cities which are "fairly" up do date, Russia is still largely a farming country in which many people live in deplorable conditions. The US, GB, France, Germany, Italy and Japan hardly has what Russia has in terms of natural resources, yet they managed to advance well ahead of Russia in practically all areas, and that means militarily and well being of the people, both at the same time. :up:

Looking around for Kapitan's response to the above post...:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::arrgh!::arrgh!::o:o

Yes our intelligence have known for decades that australia are jealous of our sheep population! :arrgh!:

And of England's sushi! :doh: