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I just got killed but no idea how
So I was on patrol in the East china sea, and I get a radar contact which I determine is an aircraft. I dive to 160ft (sea floor is at 231) and travel at 2kts for 10 minutes. Then I make my way to radar depth and suddenly everything is destroyed and the watch crew are all dead.
WTF happened? Did I get bombed? If so 10 minutes from radar contact to eating a depth charge seems like a very long time, usually they are long gone after 10 mins. Was it a mine? any ideas? I am using RFB and RSRDC. It's September 44 in my game |
East China Sea, dependent upon location, can be crawling with land-based airplanes. Airplane "A" sees your boat and "phones home" and tells all his buddies. They space themselves out, and take turns covering your last known, and potential next location. May well have been Airplane "D" that bombed you... A mine is also not out of the realm of possibility. Did you have a chance to "Save" while dying? If so, do a replay and see what you can see, if you can...
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I just laughed out loud!! :haha: :D :salute: |
:lol: - you do it often enough, you come to recognize what's happening as the world is going dark... :lol:
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Definitely sounds like a plane got you. Come to scope depth first next time, raise scope and SD radar antenna, check around, all clear, then surface. |
I hadnt reached radar depth yet. I was at 90ft on my way up from 160 when it happened.
I doubt any of the aircraft saw me. I was down soon after I got the radar contact |
In the right conditions, you can be seen from an airplane as deep as 160 feet.
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From what kind of angle are we talking?
In other words, have I been extremely unlucky or careless? |
Yes... but seriously, in TMO, you can be "seen" down relatively deep on a clear, calm day - but it's only supposed to be if they fly directly over your location. Once you are spotted though, it's rather easy to tell where you're going to be. You going in a set direction, at a set speed, and most likely won't change that very much in the time it takes a plane to turn and come back, or tell his buddies. So, at 3 knots or less, going North, in the ten minutes that passed, the plane probably had a really good fix on your location. Like they say about horse shoes and hand grenades, you only have to be sort-of close with a depth charge drop...
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than 165. Planes in RSRD are not much of a threat usually. |
There is a sort-of WIP MAD simulation that Peabody and keltos01 did several years ago. One version for the USN, another for the IJN. We're still working on the campaign itself, and haven't been able to look into finding and editing that just yet, but we will be. I'll see how "compatible" it would be as a general add-in mod, and then see if keltos01 and / or Peabody want to release it by itself. I've seen it at work, and the planes do pretty well "dog" you until they run out of depth charges... cool stuff... sort-of :har:
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Have you consider the possibility that you have the unlucky privilege of hitting a mine?
It is extremely rare but still a possibility. |
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I was thinking about that as well. So rare though. I've had it happen once first played SH 4 in 2008. |
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OK so last night the same thing happened again. I was in the formosa straits, depth below keel about 700ft. I picked up 2 radar contacts headed my way so I ordered a crash dive. I intended to get to a depth of 250 but at about 100ft on the way down there was a collision sound of some kind. Heavy damage and flooding, everyone in the watch slots = dead.
I managed to emergency surface only to find the two planes I had detected had arrived within visual range. But they did so AFTER the collision. I shot at them, thinking they would now attack but they ignored me. I guarantee there was not enough time between detection and damage for it to be these guys that caused the damage. So I saved the replay as suggested to check for mines. There was no mine either?!?!?! I still have no idea what caused the damage. Has anyone got any ideas now? Did I strike an invisible object of some kind? |
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Thanks Propbeanie. I will give this a try.
It makes me wonder though, in game do mines make a BOOM sound or a CRUNCH sound? This to me sounded more like what you get when you hit the sea floor. The replay certainly didn't render whatever it was I hit. Also I was in the middle of the formosa strait, not at the ends if that matters. |
Yes, the mines and nets are at either end. I don't think there is anything like that in the middle. If you're at 100 though, and the mine is at 15, you could hear the "chain" rattle as you catch it, then the "boom!" as the mine gets close. One thing we've discovered in FotRSU is that the anti-sub nets do not render correctly, and that you will hear their sound at approximately the 20km distance, though I don't think you take damage from them there... Are you sure you didn't get bombed? If you've got a save with replay, look again from a different angle. The game doesn't always "draw" things the same way twice in the replay files...
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100% certain I didn't get bombed. I watched the replay once from the surface and once centered on where I took the damage.
After looking at the maps though, I concluded that I am in fact in the right area for a minefield and I was last time around too (East China Sea just off the coast). These minefields also have their mines set at depths between -35 and -20 which if in meters means between 65ft and 115ft deep. It is the right depth to account for both incidents. Weird that it didn't render though :hmmm: Anyway by DID rules it looks like I am starting again. S-42 Class, April 22nd 1942 out of Brisbane. Not a minefield even close. Thanks again propbeanie. Wouldn't have been able to figure it out without your advice :up: |
You are more than welcome. The minefields during the war were a menace to everyone, not just the warships... The things broke loose all the time, and would float to where ever the currents carried them...
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