Up to 14 dead in fire in Russian submarine
 

Just seen this thoughts with the families

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europ...ource=facebook

Fourteen dead in Russian submarine fire
 

Tragic :nope:

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Fire underwater is one of the worst things that can happen. Since this vessel is top-secret we (the wide public) will know what happened only some 30+ years later. And I cannot blame anyone for that - that's natural flow of things considering uniqueness and character of work of that craft. To say more - as a civil person I don't really need to know that. But what I want to be sure of - is that they had thoroughly investigated the calamity and that cadets at Navy Schools will be studying this case along with others. And of course I feel very sorry for loved ones and relatives of fourteen good guys who are on eternal patrol from now on: sadly their third toast would have a very personal sense (((

I’m getting reports the submarine involved Is a mini submarine of the losharik class

So do our mass media say

Yes, seems like it is AS 12 'Losharik' (Project 1083 1), its 'mothership' is a former Delta III with a changed back, maybe the 'Lorenburg'.
https://news.usni.org/2019/07/02/14-...lear-submarine
Capable to dive to 6000 meters, due to its interior pressure-resistent ball design ('losharik' is a russian cartoon horse consisting of balls)

A terrible accident, feeling sorry for the sailors and their families.

True it is sad ... Will certainly pray for them, but my hope is for any survivor's :yep:

Look fwd to more information ... She must have surfaced or there wouldn't be anything left to count.

Can't imagine how terrifying a fire inside a submarine would be.


Thoughts for the families.

It could have been fire supression that hit them.

article in the Moscow times on what is known so far, apparently only 4-5 survivors:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/...-so-far-a66264

Great loss of top-officers and one-of-a-kind specialists. Seven Capitains of first Rank, two Heroes of Russia cavaliers. They've managed to throw out civil specialist from the burning compartment saving his life before self-locking in it. Somehow like in "72 meters" movie..

:yep:

New Details On Russian Submarine Fire Emerge Along With An Intriguing Schematic (Updated)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...uing-schematic

When they said the fire was in the engine room my first thoughts were, "Oh it must be a conventional submarine", but it in fact just a modified Oscar class nuclear submarine with a 100' section added in for her special underwater operations.

Catfish reported that she could dive to 6,000 meters ... I doubt that perhaps the mini sub she carried could dive that far. :yep:

Think the mother ship involved is the KC64 Moscow a modified delta IV carrying the losharik mini submarine

It was losharik that was involved in the incident

I’m getting info from different sources all pointing to the mother ship being KC64

So it wasn't the mother ship, but the mini sub losharik ...
Which leaves the program still intact due to it was experimental underwater work.

Hush hush top secret :yep:

No, i think the modified Oscar was not involved here, as far as i read from various sources it is a modified Delta III submarine BS-136 as 'mothership' (in this case the 'Orenburg', former K-129) and the "AS 12", "AS 31", "Losharik", "spy sub", "deepsea station", "research sub" (lol) or whatever the russian military calls it, is slung beneath it to hide it from satellite or aerial reconnaissance.

The Delta does not dive that deep, but the small parasite sub maybe can, if you look at the inner titanium ball construction. The Russians have already built extreme deep-diving tactical subs of much bigger sizes. No doubt this one is a very special and expensive sub. Question is if it ever dives again, when a battery fire has weakened the titanium hull of one or several ball compartments. Then add acid fumes.

This smaller sub can manipulate or cut undersea cables along with planting devices for listening, in this arctic mission it has been used to "prove" Russia's claims on certain resource-rich areas under water in the arctic; in this case to look for geological relations* of certain areas to the russian continental shelf. "Scientific Research", lmao.

(*What geological relations have to do with arbitrarily drawn political borders, or what this "proves" regarding territorial claims? Must be a special russian idea or secret. I call BS.
Like planting a flag underwater. Claiming colonies in the 21st century? Really?)


Regarding the lengthened Oscar class, seems it is designed to place bigger devices on the sea floor, like e.g. nuclear reactors to provide the power for transatlantioc cable listening stations, the russian equivalent of SOSUS, and something like that.

The incident was on AS-31 "Losharik" speical purpose deep diving sub. That sub uses nuclear power plant. The fire is reported to have been electric, the crew pushed out the civilian industrial specialist out of the compartment and proceded to fight the power till they managed to take it out. However it appears that they either perished in the fire or shortly afterwards, most likely from smoke/gasses etc.

'There's An Incident Involving A Russian Submarine Every Five Or Six Years'

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