U-BOAT_HAHD on SH4 platform.
 

Hi SH4 shipmates ,

Most of you guy's are probably aware that we are working on megamod for SH3 but some recent discussions raise the point that SH4 would be more appropriated to render our high quality vision of the dream sim we all want to see.

So i am opening this thread to start the discussion on the major porting aspect we will have to deal with ex; Harbor integration, u-boat integration, campaign elements etc.


Keep in mind that i didn't follow closely the modding community of SH4 so many thing are still new to me regarding what have been done so far to implemented all SH3 elements in SH4 structure.

Also we would be more than happy if some of you experienced modders are willing to join our team, we have plenty of resources to offer like advanced video tutorials and extensive reference material and assets.

We also have a complete website with private chat and member folders etc.

Awaiting your constructive comments and feedback. :Kaleun_Salute:

Best regards Hans

i think, it is important to have lurker and drakkhen onboard, hans. they already created some important stuff, regarding the atlantic theater and its campaigns, harbor layouts, etc. so there already is a base we could start from.

Porting 3D models is quite straightforward, IIRC Ducimus enabled all the harbours of SH3 almost by dropping the files into Sh4. Conversion of units isn't difficult either, and the campaign is already very well done by lurker in his "Operation Monsoon" mod, which also added lots of UBoats (Including working minelayers), etc.

You also have already a great environment mod, and the only big difficulty -which was the interface- was overcomed by karamazovnew, who provided an excellent, usable and very professional and fitting GUI.

Quite frankly, adding all the HAHD stuff to the existing combo and polishing the game to the end would be friggin awesome, and probably quite superior to SH5. Heck ... what are we waiting for? :o Let the conversion begin at once :up:

+1:yep:

Hi shipmates,

It seem that the SH4 community is dead or close to it because nobody seem enthusiastic about our proposition.

Best regards Hans

Hello Hans! This project sounds really great!:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up: It would be a completly new mod including the new camapign for german submarines or the implementation of HAHD into Operation Monsun?

Patience matey...
 

Hans, you have to realise that there is a huge gap between the SH3+GWX3.0+SH3COMMANDER and SH5 u-boat simers. IF you can achieve the "SH4 Atlantic predator anabiosis" then MOST of the "SH3 lovers" and "SH5 haters" will follow your vision instantly...

Hi mate,

Yes if we can have Lurker on our side it would become the most played version of the SH serie for a couple of years ahead.

Let's just hope some folks in the SH4 community are interested to work in a real team effort to get our ultimate goal a reality.

Best regards Hans

Hi mate,

Yes the goal is to make what everybody want from Sh3 in SH4 with the extra bell and whistle aka more advanced shader and technologies.

SH5 would required way to much time and effort to bring it close to SH3 spirit and like i say even if some features look good there is still a tremendous amount of work to even getting close to the SH3 quality.

Also by today standard SH4 can be run by almost any computer but not SH5 with this one you need a killer rig to just enable the water effect!

So SH4 should be the road to glory not without the effort.

Best regards Hans

Yeap... That's the spirit mate...:03:

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Hans , I support your choice, I only hope that you will drag more modders around your team this way. Revival of GWX4, under a different name? Or maybe refine OM with Lurker's help, cause we're talking about U-Boats here, right?

One last thing: Should I bookmark this thread? The things are moving here, right?

Hi mate,

If no one is willing to team with us then i will have to change my mind and get back to SH3 i already mention that without a proper team effort i won't go that route.

Don't bookmark yet i still need other team members approval before starting the work.

Best regards Hans

Hi mate,

Yes indeed the technologies is more advanced regarding shaders and other features but wait to see it port with my own wicked 3d artist trick:Kaleun_Salivating:
Best regards Hans

But why exactly do you think you need SH4 modders? The thing is, anybody who can mod Sh3 can also mod Sh4, bith games have identical file structure and work almost the same except the menu.ini

The work from older Sh4 modders like lurker, Ducimus or karamazovnew is not needed for your team, what they all did is ready to be used directly and doesn't need much further updating.

The effort it would take for you and your current team to get into Sh4 is really minimal, so believe me when I say that the current lack of Sh4 modders is absolutely no problem. Besides, as soon as your project starts I'm sure that new blood will pour in and become interested.

Don't pass on the posibilities (Not just graphics, there's working resupply, calling friendly forces, correct weather with no bugs, no aircraft bug at high TC, better engine to allow huge TC rates, etc, etc) of Sh4 just because of that, it would be truly unforgiveable :yep:

Hi mate,

I understand what you mean because i am already working in SH4 at the moment and will show later on what i have done so far!

The need for other team member is necessary if we want to release before the sun die off.:k_rofl:
I am learning the Sh4 structure and it seem pretty close to SH3 so far except some advanced features.

Best regards Hans

As I said on the other thread, I'm in, though I'm not sure what I can really contribute. If we can get a programmer who can activate the ship names function, then I can be a real help there. I've had ideas for a long time that I've wanted to try, because SH4 is also much better for the way it organizes the ship models.

What the Heck.

I'll do what I can but I'm not very good at modding.
:D

:k_rofl:

You naughty little boy! Arf if you can't mod then i am Jesus donkey!

Seriously i just have my first look at SH4 under the hood and i can't believe i didn't look at it earlier!

The possibility are amazing and i have to admit the water model is way better and with some HAHD tweak it will be the Atlantic the way i want it.

I noticed that the caustic are not showing and i patch it to 1.4 i will have a look at the controller.

I didn't install the u-boat mission yet just stock sh4 1.4.

Edit: My mistake i will look like a noob the cd have install everything and i am already at version 1.5! lol

Let's the fun begin and may you join in if you have the will and the time to do it let's do it for the sake of history.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
Best regards Hans

Well Thanks to Ref?
90% of any SH3 Unit can be converted in less then a second.
So any transfer of existing SH3 Units to SH4 has less work involved.

I can't release it but I can do the conversions.
I can probably write an app to handle what it does not.
Thus cutting another 10% time loss.

I can also have them setup to run a complete folder and all subfolders/files.

10 minutes?
Any and all SH3 Units are converted and would only need detail work.

To use this Tool from Ref requires Credits to Him and The GWX Team.
I don't think that's a problem is it?