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mapuc 06-04-15 04:42 PM

Everything is an illusion
 
The quote below is a translated text from a Swedish news paper(aftonbladet.se)

Quote:

Theory can prove that reality is - but only if you look

Have you ever wondered what goes on behind you when you are not watching? Nothing, they say.
New research proves that it can be true

Your eyes may be more valuable than you ever imagined. New research, proves an old theory in quantum physics: that reality does not exist as long as it is not measured.
Simply stated, it only exists if you look at it.


Examine the light in huge experiment

The physicists conducted a so-called "John Wheeler's-delayed-choice-thought-experiment". The researchers' goal is to see if and when the light takes a certain shape, wave or particle, or whether it remains in indeterminate state.

According to the laws of quantum physics, you can first, when light traveling is over see how it acted

Even this the researchers at the Australian National University detected

- This proves that the measurement is everything, says Professor Andrew Truscott wrote British media.

- At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you do not see it

use laser

Usually conducted experiment by researchers let the light bounce off mirrors. This time, did the researchers helium atoms move through several laser beams.


The beams created an irregular pattern and intersections, as if the mirrors would break the light and change the light movements. In the second part of the experiment, the researchers added a pattern of new rays that were a mixture of the first and second pattern. This led to disturbances created around the atoms, as if they "chose" to follow both the first and second pattern


When they took away the second round of the rays disappeared disruptions, as if the atoms gone back to its original path.

- The atoms were moving ever from A to B. It was only when the atoms were measured after the trial that their behavior began to exist, says Andrew Truscott, to British media

- If you choose to believe that atoms really moved in a specific pattern, you must accept that a modern measurement affects the atoms' history, said Truscott.
More about it here

http://physics.anu.edu.au/projects/p...?ProjectID=141

If your dog is outside he/she does not exist-only in your mind and in your photos.

Markus

Sailor Steve 06-04-15 05:08 PM

The age-old question: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it still make a sound?

The problem I see is that they can spend all the money in the universe on trying to prove this, and they never will. The simple fact is that you can't prove a negative. If there is no equipment to measure it then there is no way to prove whether it exists or not.

vienna 06-04-15 05:25 PM

If mapuc makes a post and no one sees it, does the post exist and, by extension, does mapuc exist?...

The whole thing might explain why a lot of people say about me I'm not all there...


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Oberon 06-04-15 05:35 PM

Do Swedish newspapers exist?

Rockstar 06-04-15 05:39 PM

When you think about it there's no proof of anything, only mathematical consistency between theories, and consistency between theory and observation, until new observations contradict it. As far as I know there's no proof that you exist, but some observations such as the vast amount of text some people post make it a credible hypothesis.

vienna 06-04-15 05:49 PM

Is the above proof Rockstar exists?...


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mapuc 06-04-15 05:50 PM

I love sciences, sometimes its to heavy like this one.

Markus

Rockstar 06-04-15 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2318802)
Is the above proof Rockstar exists?...


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I text therefore I am. :D

Rockstar 06-04-15 07:19 PM

What is reality but what we perceive? What is our perception, if not our creation?

Quote:

http://www.tehomet.net/bill.html

It's Just A Ride
by Bill Hicks

The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.

Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid -- ever -- because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.

'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.' It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that -- ever notice that? -- and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over -- not one human being excluded -- and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace.

Tango589 06-04-15 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2318790)
The age-old question: If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it still make a sound?

Or

If a mime artist falls over and people see it, does he make a sound?

Wolferz 06-04-15 07:36 PM

Rockstar is looking for Star Trektopia.:up::D

In reality, The matrix has you.

Rockstar 06-04-15 08:27 PM

Dont get started on time travel! :rotfl2:

Sailor Steve 06-04-15 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2318813)
I text therefore I am. :D

I think you're putting Descartes before des horse. :O:

Wolferz 06-04-15 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango589 (Post 2318821)
Or

If a mime artist falls over and people see it, does he make a sound?


Only if you seize the opportunity to kick him in the cojones.:arrgh!:

vienna 06-04-15 09:23 PM

"I think, therefore I am...I think..." :hmmm:


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