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kraznyi_oktjabr 12-21-11 04:45 PM

Finland impounds shipment of Patriot missiles, explosives in ship destined for Shangh
 
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HELSINKI — Finnish authorities on Wednesday impounded 160 tons of explosives and 69 surface-to-air missiles found on a British-flagged cargo ship ultimately destined for Shanghai, China, officials said.
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Last updated: 21 December 2011 at 22:16 (U.S. East Coast)

Jimbuna 12-21-11 05:09 PM

Where did those Patriots come from? :hmmm:

Skybird 12-21-11 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1808797)
Where did those Patriots come from? :hmmm:

Maybe a Chinese callback to remedy a technical problem?

:D

Rockstar 12-21-11 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1808797)
Where did those Patriots come from? :hmmm:

Germany maybe? I've read South Korea has purchased second hand Patriot missile systems from them before.

http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050713111046.9zsykm7x.html


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Oberon 12-21-11 05:36 PM

I love the fact they were in a box marked 'Fireworks' :har::har::har:

Jimbuna 12-21-11 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1808806)
Maybe a Chinese callback to remedy a technical problem?

:D

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1808813)
I love the fact they were in a box marked 'Fireworks' :har::har::har:

LOL :DL

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1808812)
Germany maybe? I've read South Korea has purchased second hand Patriot missile systems from them before.

http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050713111046.9zsykm7x.html


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If they are intended for China surely the Germans wouldn't want to get involved :hmmm:

Fincuan 12-21-11 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1808898)
If they are intended for China surely the Germans wouldn't want to get involved :hmmm:

The latest news up here is that they're indeed coming from Germany and intended for South Korea, like RS said. Apparently some shipping documents relating to South Korea have been found inside the containers. They're just supposed to be transported via China for some reason, or the ship was supposed to make a port call in China before heading to ROK. An anonymous employee of the company responsible for the shipment commented that they might have loaded the missiles onto a wrong ship by accident(yeah right).

In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles? :D

Jimbuna 12-21-11 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan (Post 1808909)
The latest news up here is that they're indeed coming from Germany and intended for South Korea, like RS said. Apparently some shipping documents relating to South Korea have been found inside the containers. They're just supposed to be transported via China for some reason, or the ship was supposed to make a port call in China before heading to ROK. An anonymous employee of the company responsible for the shipment commented that they might have loaded the missiles onto a wrong ship by accident(yeah right).

In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles? :D

China might have a few going cheap seeing as how they're no longer going to get the missiles :DL

Penguin 12-22-11 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan (Post 1808909)
In any case does anyone want to sell us some Patriot launchers, radars and support vehicles now that we've got a bunch of missiles? :D

Sorry, we prefer to sell our good equipment to countries that kill witches. You have got to work on this first before we can deliver stuff.

stormrider_sp 12-22-11 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1808922)
China might have a few going cheap seeing as how they're no longer going to get the missiles :DL

The fact that one ship was seized doesnt mean there arent more. As we already know the Chinese, right now they´re probably reverse-engineering them.

MH 12-22-11 10:33 AM

I cant believe Germany would send officialy or unofficialy patriot missiles to china.
Its not exactly RPG launcher....

kraznyi_oktjabr 12-22-11 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1809141)
I cant believe Germany would send officialy or unofficialy patriot missiles to china.
Its not exactly RPG launcher....

As this mess unravels current summary of explanations of events is:
- Germany sell Patriots to South Korea
-> missiles are loaded to ship in Emden travelling to South Korea via Finland and China (!)
-> South Korea and shipping company should do necessary paperwork
-> no one does paper work
-> somebode writes "fireworks" into container
-> missiles are found (read events from post below)

= police has a lot hard questions for ya...

Story have changed at least once so far so Germany, South Korea and shipping company has few things to explain.

Fincuan 12-22-11 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 1809218)
-> somebode writes "fireworks" into container
-> harbour employees (?) call police

It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.

kraznyi_oktjabr 12-22-11 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan (Post 1809229)
It started unravelling when the stevedores noticed dangerously packed explosives(nitroguanidine) onboard and alerted authorities. The authorities then inspected the entire cargo.

Thank you! :salute:

Oberon 12-22-11 02:55 PM

- Sell missiles to ROK
- ???
- Profit!


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