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mako88sb 05-24-11 03:11 PM

Moon hoax spoof
 
I stumbled across "A Funny Thing happened on the Way to the Moon" yesterday and just kept shaking my head at it's ridicules claims. Seriously, people use this as a credible source for their moon hoax beliefs?

Anyway, also came across this and thought others would get a kick out of it. Does a pretty good job of spoofing these idiots. If you haven't watched Bart Sibrel's film yet, you should watch 5 mins or so of the first part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKONhVl7Sr8) or you'll be a bit confused with how the spoof starts:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTbeU...eature=related

Platapus 05-24-11 03:18 PM

Pretty sad.

But there will always be some small population that simply won't be shifted from their opinions not matter what.

It is generally best to ignore them.

Betonov 05-24-11 03:25 PM

It's a conspiracy maaaan, the goverment wanted us to think that we got up there maaaan, so we ddn't see the mind control satelite in orbit maaan...

But really, want proof, look trough a telescope, you can se the landers and rovers still up there

Tchocky 05-24-11 03:34 PM

This one I love - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

Platapus 05-24-11 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1669854)

But really, want proof, look trough a telescope, you can se the landers and rovers still up there

That may be a bit difficult as there are no telescopes on earth that would be able to resolve the lander no less the rover on the moon.

http://calgary.rasc.ca/moonscope.htm

The largest optical telescope on earth is the Canarias telescope and that has an aperture of 10.4 meters. Big, but not big enough. :nope: You would need an aperture of 100 meters even if one that big could be made, it would be pretty pricy.

So if you want to confirm the moon landings you will need some fricking lasers and even then the nutters will claim that it is just reflecting off of unmanned remains.

And no, the Hubble can't see it either. :nope:

razark 05-24-11 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1669858)
That may be a bit difficult as there are no telescopes on earth that would be able to resolve the lander no less the rover on the moon.

The were some pictures released a while back from a satellite in lunar orbit showing the landing sites. I forget which one it was, but they're available online.

(Those photos were, of course, faked. :know:)

Edit:
Should have checked your link first... the photos are there.
http://calgary.rasc.ca/moonscope.htm#landingsites

Platapus 05-24-11 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1669857)


Those guys are awesome. Have they released a compilation of their stuff on DvD?

Platapus 05-24-11 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1669860)
The were some pictures released a while back from a satellite in lunar orbit showing the landing sites. I forget which one it was, but they're available online.

(Those photos were, of course, faked. :know:)

Well yes, if you can bring the telescope TO lunar orbit than you are only looking down about 40-60 miles. A good set of binoculars might do the trick at that range.

But not from the earth nor earth orbit. :nope:

AVGWarhawk 05-24-11 03:43 PM

And a mirror from what I'm told.

Quote:

Ringed by footprints, sitting in the moondust, lies a 2-foot wide panel studded with 100 mirrors pointing at Earth: the "lunar laser ranging retroreflector array." Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk. Thirty-five years later, it's the only Apollo science experiment still running.

Betonov 05-24-11 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1669858)
That may be a bit difficult as there are no telescopes on earth that would be able to resolve the lander no less the rover on the moon.

Wait for the right time, when the sun shines on the moon at a certain angle, the shadows of the lander should be visible, no ??

Nice long dark shadows on a light surface

Platapus 05-24-11 03:54 PM

Better be very very long and very very wide shadows. Unfortunately the albedo of the moon is about 0.12 so discerning shadows may be problematic also.

If you have ever tried to take a picture of the moon, you will notice how hard it is to calculate the exposure to pull out even the gross details of big fricking mountains on the moon.

razark 05-24-11 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1669869)
Wait for the right time, when the sun shines on the moon at a certain angle, the shadows of the lander should be visible, no ??

Nice long dark shadows on a light surface

http://calgary.rasc.ca/images/Apollo11_site.jpghttp://calgary.rasc.ca/images/Apollo14_site.jpg
At least that's what they claim.

I've seen the "real" moon landing pictures and video. I don't remember ever seeing giant white arrows and letters there!

Platapus 05-24-11 03:58 PM

But remember, those pictures were taken from Lunar orbit 40-60 miles or so.

The question I was addressing was whether a telescope from earth could see it.

Betonov 05-24-11 04:01 PM

Just a theory, not a claim :DL
Too bad, I always wondered if I'll be able to see the landers if I meet someone with a powerfull telescope

razark 05-24-11 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1669876)
The question I was addressing was whether a telescope from earth could see it.

True, I'm just having fun.

Even if someone were able to build a telescope on Earth capable of resolving the lunar landing sites, people would still claim those images were faked. The only way to prove to some of these people would be to take them to the moon and show them the footprints.

Even then, some of them would claim it was fake.


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