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Catfish 03-01-22 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2796274)
The earlier report of an armoured column 27km long has been corrected. Its 64km long. :o

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60542877
2-3 Warthogs and they are toast.

re Aktung yes i know, I was one of the first to protest against the use of DU-projectiles in former Yugoslavia and the middle east, and was almost banned at this other forum for being so unamerican :haha:

But really, they are as vulnerable now as Hitler's columns heading for France and being stuck back then..
Putin does not have air superiority. Ukraine should strike NOW, where are they? What about drones?

Catfish 03-01-22 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2796287)
[...] @ Anvar1061, can't play the video on my machine!

You did not miss much, seems it is a propaganda video.
They say it was not Putin who shelled Akhtyrka. I take it is not Putin trying to invade Ukraine but .. aliens :03:.

Catfish 03-01-22 03:30 AM

'A new Europe' united against Russia — even neutral Switzerland

Germany, Switzerland and Sweden set aside historic nonaggression policies to join a united European front against Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...land-rcna18028

Catfish 03-01-22 03:55 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigatio...s-sa-rcna18026

Not nice. But sit there and do nothing while Putin taking Ukraine, Poland and the baltic states?

Very sorry Mr. Putin but the rest of the world will not play this game. So Putin escalates the situation because he is so frustrated, and threatens the world with a nuclear strike?
High time to stop him, by whatever means.

Anvar1061 03-01-22 04:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo

Anvar1061 03-01-22 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2796287)
@ Anvar1061, can't play the video on my machine!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2796299)
You did not miss much, seems it is a propaganda video.
They say it was not Putin who shelled Akhtyrka. I take it is not Putin trying to invade Ukraine but .. aliens :03:.

https://sun9-79.userapi.com/impg/9FC...a32&type=album

Catfish 03-01-22 05:13 AM

^ ?

^^ What Putin wants is probably not what most of russians want. And it is obviously not what a free and independent Ukraine wants.
Nothing of this justifies this invasion, there are russians shooting at russians for aggressor Putin's ego to make Russia great again in the borders of 1989.

Skybird 03-01-22 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2796301)
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigatio...s-sa-rcna18026

Not nice. But sit there and do nothing while Putin taking Ukraine, Poland and the baltic states?

Very sorry Mr. Putin but the rest of the world will not play this game. So Putin escalates the situation because he is so frustrated, and threatens the world with a nuclear strike?
High time to stop him, by whatever means.

Thats a good assessment from them, and I see it like them, too. Putin has chsnged, became erratic, and from tbe consequences of these errors errs even more. I too fear the ugliest part of the war is still ahead. He is an isolated rabied dog now, more dangerous than ever. The murderously cool mastercalculator is gone, is no more.

Anvar1061 03-01-22 05:22 AM

The US has spent $5 billion supporting regime change in Ukraine. Neo-fascists played a key role in the February 2014 coup. With their help, the US State Department and the Pentagon hoped to replace the legitimate president with someone who would push Ukraine to join NATO. But the key task of the operation in Ukraine was the eviction of the Black Sea Fleet from the military bases of the Crimea, which have existed for more than 230 years.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-anti-governm/

Skybird 03-01-22 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2796298)
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60542877
2-3 Warthogs and they are toast.

re Aktung yes i know, I was one of the first to protest against the use of DU-projectiles in former Yugoslavia and the middle east, and was almost banned at this other forum for being so unamerican :haha:

But really, they are as vulnerable now as Hitler's columns heading for France and being stuck back then..
Putin does not have air superiority. Ukraine should strike NOW, where are they? What about drones?

They kknow they are there, if they dont strike them, then probably they cant. No more missile ammo, no artillery in reach, no local air dominance - the reason could be many.

Anvar1061 03-01-22 05:41 AM

— the grouping of the RF Armed Forces will continue to conduct a special military operation until the set goals are achieved;

- the main task is to protect Russia from the military threat posed by Western countries;

- Western countries are trying to use the Ukrainian people in the fight against Russia;

- the Russian army does not occupy Ukrainian territory, but takes all measures to preserve the lives and safety of civilians;

- strikes are carried out only on military targets and exclusively with high-precision weapons;

- the Ukrainian side uses civilians as a human shield, also uses multiple launch rocket systems, large-caliber weapons and mortars;

- The Ukrainian army is stationed in the courtyards of residential buildings, near schools and kindergartens.

(Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu)

Dowly 03-01-22 05:53 AM

^
Imagine being so deprived of your ability to form an independent thought that you actually believe this BS.

Catfish 03-01-22 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvar1061 (Post 2796309)
The US has spent $5 billion supporting regime change in Ukraine. Neo-fascists played a key role in the February 2014 coup. With their help, the US State Department and the Pentagon hoped to replace the legitimate president with someone who would push Ukraine to join NATO. But the key task of the operation in Ukraine was the eviction of the Black Sea Fleet from the military bases of the Crimea, which have existed for more than 230 years.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-anti-governm/

Did you read the article you linked to? Please do.
I quote:

"Our ruling
Contrary to claims, the United States did not spend $5 billion to incite the rebellion in Ukraine.

That’s a distorted understanding of remarks given by a State Department official. She was referring to money spent on democracy-building programs in Ukraine since it broke off from the Soviet Union in 1991.

We rate the claim Pants on Fire."

Anvar1061 03-01-22 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2796299)
They say it was not Putin who shelled Akhtyrka.

Do you know where Akhtyrka is on the map? How do you know what was in that military unit that was razed to the ground? You don't need to know this. This is still about the naval base in Ochakovo, which the US military was building, you they (fakenews) did not tell.

Anvar1061 03-01-22 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2796313)
Did you read the article you linked to?

This is a lie and an attempt to get out, referring to the wrong translation.


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