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Jimbuna 01-29-22 09:39 AM

Sue Gray is expected to deliver her report on No 10 parties to the PM without waiting for the police inquiry to conclude, the BBC has been told.

The senior civil servant is set to hand her report to Downing Street shortly - though no exact date has been given.

But police have asked for "minimal reference" to be made to events they are looking at, in order to "avoid any prejudice to our investigation".

Tory MP Sir Christopher Chope said the Met's actions were an "abuse of power".

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, he accused the police of "interfering" with the content of the report and trying to prevent it being released in full.

Opposition parties have also insisted the report is released in full.

No 10 has promised to publish Ms Gray's findings on alleged lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street and Whitehall, but is yet to receive the document.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60177028

Jimbuna 01-30-22 02:42 PM

Opposition MPs have accused the prime minister and the chancellor of ignoring struggling families, after they confirmed taxes would rise in April.

Writing in the Sunday Times, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak insisted their £12bn National Insurance increase would go ahead, despite opposition.

Labour, the Lib Dems and some Tory MPs are urging a rethink, arguing workers cannot afford more tax at the moment.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss the hike was needed due to Covid spending.

She said the Tories wanted to be able to lower taxes to boost the economy - but government support during the pandemic had to be "paid back".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60189393

Catfish 01-31-22 04:24 AM

The gifts of brexit..

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60191402

Jimbuna 01-31-22 06:03 AM

In fairness though, Covid hasn't helped matters either.

Catfish 01-31-22 06:15 AM

Brexit has not magically tranformed "Britain", but agreed it is not calamitous either.

But Covid has also been a welcomed excuse for brexit shortcomings*
As the pandemic recedes, the negative impacts of Brexit will become clearer and its political effects more unpredictable

* .. or to Johnson's :03:

Jimbuna 01-31-22 07:31 AM

An initial version of Sue Gray's report into Downing Street parties during lockdown has been delivered to No 10

The report is expected to be released to the public later and the PM will address the Commons at 15:30GMT

But it's unclear exactly how complete it is, after the Met Police asked for it to make "minimal reference" to events it is investigating.

The Cabinet Office said Gray had given Boris Johnson "an update"

Senior Tories have joined opposition MPs in demanding the report be published in full.

Gray's findings are crucial for Johnson as they could see Tory MPs force a vote on his leadership.

Jimbuna 01-31-22 10:10 AM

An initial version of Sue Gray's highly-anticipated report into Downing Street parties during lockdown has been published.

She finds that some lockdown gatherings in government represent a "serious failure" to observe what was asked of the public.

She says there were "failures of leadership and judgment by different parts of No 10 and the Cabinet Office"

Several gatherings "should not have been allowed to take place or to develop in the way that they did", she adds.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson will address the Commons at 15:30GMT

The report is seen as preliminary because the Met Police asked for it to make "minimal reference" to events it is investigating.

Senior Tories have joined opposition MPs in demanding the report be published in full.

Gray's findings are crucial for Johnson as they could see Tory MPs force a vote on his leadership.

mapuc 01-31-22 11:07 AM

Are interested in what Boris said to the Parliament-About Sue Gray's report

Markus

Skybird 01-31-22 11:14 AM

From Catholic churches to political governments and parties, from economic corporations to media and opinion lobbies - its always a conflict of interest that must be refuted unconditionally if the accused amongst these claim they can regulate themselves, examine themselves, sanction themselves, do just on behalf of themselves.


The endless tolerance and forgiveness granted by the wide public, is disgusting. Though the justice in this at least is that the people do not get more than what they deserve - and nothing better.



So let nobody complain.

Jimbuna 01-31-22 12:53 PM

Theresa May questions Boris Johnson over lockdown rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-60205731

Jimbuna 01-31-22 12:59 PM

Gray report: SNP Westminster leader Blackford ordered out of Commons

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-60205873

Rockstar 01-31-22 01:02 PM

Quote:

Boris Johnson was asked if he had not read or did not understand Covid lockdown rules, or thought they did not apply to Number 10. Former Prime Minister Theresa May said Downing Street "was not observing the regulations they had imposed on the public."

I’m sure he did read them he probably approved them. But as we here in the states witnessed. The democrat mandate Nazis wrote the lockdown rules but only expected the ‘help’ to wear the masks and the follow protocol at their gala’s and balls. While these very vocal Democrat mandate Nazis walked around flaunting their wealth and freedom MASKLESS.

Should we go after them for not following the rules? Or should we be inquiring if the rules they wrote were just a bunch of unnecessary political b.s. to begin with? After all what they said in public was contrary to what they did in public.

mapuc 01-31-22 06:30 PM

Following is taken from a Danish article and translated into English

"Following the publication of a 12-page - but abridged - version of an official report, Boris Johnson is fighting for his life in the House of Commons on Monday afternoon, where the debate rages after Boris Johnson's opening speech to the elected representatives.

Here, Boris Johnson began by apologizing for what has been going on on his watch, while Britain has been shut down due to the corona pandemic.

‘Boris Johnson said an apology was not enough. And then a shiver went through the room. "

"People thought he was planning to resign. But he did not do that. He suggested that all possible changes be cleaned up and implemented. The problem was everyone but himself
"

Markus

Skybird 01-31-22 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2790994)
Gray report: SNP Westminster leader Blackford ordered out of Commons

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-60205873


Reading that short news, I cannot express my disgust for this gang of monkeys adequately. What damn hypocrites.


That parliamentary rule is sheer mockery. The naming of the misdeed gets sanctioned, the doing of the misdeed is fully acceptable as logn as the shine is polished and the facade is uphold. Here is where politeness is turned into damaging absurdity. Spit!






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