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TteFAboB 02-15-06 12:55 PM

If I think anything, it is that Starforce has already received so much negative publicity, and completely failed to give a satisfactory response, that it shouldn't be chosen to protect anything for that reason alone.

"Darling, it is not enough to be honest, you have to seem honest" - said Caesar, even if Starforce was harmless, they failed to address the public and answer the accusations properly, that interview was very superficial, I take good care of my discs but I once had a CD-ROM scratch deeper than that.

John Channing 02-15-06 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulcommander

These UK laws are written by and for the consumer.
Not by people that are playing games with contests.
Did you read the guide John?

If a consumer chooses to request a repair or replacement, then for the first six months after purchase it will be for the retailer to prove the goods did conform to contract (e.g. were not inherently faulty)

Couldn't be bothered. But your quote above is quite a bit different from the description of the law you provided, a description which struck me as amusing.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Things don't actually work that way in real life.

JCC

Onkel Neal 02-15-06 11:55 PM

I'm not jumping on the anti-SF bandwagon until I see some credible testing done by reputable sources. I have not experienced any problems with SF encoded games.

ThirteenthHouR 02-16-06 01:44 AM

An off topic note, should anybody be aware of who is calling and making Death threats against Soulcommander and his family.

Please report information here: http://www.fbi.gov

The most recent call occured on his landline during a conference call on SKYPE. So it was overheard by myself and GT182. 03:57 Hrs GMT 16 February 2006.


Guys we know feelings are running high about this , but threatening a disabled guy and his family with phone comments like

"There will be dire consequences if you do not stop posting on the net" (That is the milder part which I can post here). is not the way to go about things and is a Serious Federal offence in the United States.

Just to remind peeps here Soulcommander has been trying to help end users and the companies involved with SF issues. To reach some sort of amicable compromise. I do not honestly believe that anybody here would condone these sort of actions against him or his family.

Gizzmoe 02-16-06 02:00 AM

:o

I´m sorry to hear that. I hope he had the opportunity to record the call.

ThirteenthHouR 02-16-06 02:08 AM

I believe so.

Heck many of us disagree with each other over SF but this is a serious situation. We are not just talking about flames or heated arguments on forums anymore. These are real death threats.

As some of you know, I know personally what it is like to be set up for assassination by Paramilitaries in Northern Ireland and was very nearly killed back in October 2002. So I know just how scary threats on your life can be.

I just want to add that our thoughts and support are with you Soulcommander.

jumpy 02-16-06 04:50 AM

@ ThirteenthHouR and his last two posts.

That's despicable, truely. :down:

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

lesrae 02-16-06 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
I'm not jumping on the anti-SF bandwagon until I see some credible testing done by reputable sources. I have not experienced any problems with SF encoded games.

Ditto

Rotary Crewman 02-16-06 09:31 AM

Terrible news about Soulcommander :(

On a side note, if i run SHIII, use the SF removal tool, will SF reappear next time i run SHIII? Sorry if this is already explained in the thread.

Gizzmoe 02-16-06 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotary Crewman
On a side note, if i run SHIII, use the SF removal tool, will SF reappear next time i run SHIII?

Yes.

Rotary Crewman 02-16-06 09:51 AM

Bugger, sod that then.

Gizzmoe 02-16-06 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirteenthHouR
The most recent call occured on his landline during a conference call on SKYPE.

I´ve just noticed that it apparently wasn´t the first time he was threatened by phone in regard to his anti-SF activities. How often had this happened before? When did it start? Was it always the same guy?

By the way, you should also post something on the Ubisoft forums, where he was undoubtedly much more active than here, and also on Glop.org and your site. There´s no information about this on these sites yet.

SUBMAN1 02-16-06 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirteenthHouR
An off topic note, should anybody be aware of who is calling and making Death threats against Soulcommander and his family.

Please report information here: http://www.fbi.gov

The most recent call occured on his landline during a conference call on SKYPE. So it was overheard by myself and GT182. 03:57 Hrs GMT 16 February 2006.


Guys we know feelings are running high about this , but threatening a disabled guy and his family with phone comments like

"There will be dire consequences if you do not stop posting on the net" (That is the milder part which I can post here). is not the way to go about things and is a Serious Federal offence in the United States.

Just to remind peeps here Soulcommander has been trying to help end users and the companies involved with SF issues. To reach some sort of amicable compromise. I do not honestly believe that anybody here would condone these sort of actions against him or his family.

That is rediculous!!! Do you have the time they called? I'll you have to do is have your phone company find out who called you at that time and then relay that information on to the FBI.

-S

GT182 02-16-06 03:23 PM

Whoever made the calls will be found. They'd better be worried too as the authorities are now involved.

Gizzmoe 02-16-06 03:30 PM

How many calls from how many different people were there?

GT182 02-16-06 03:40 PM

As it's in the authorities hands and a part of the investigation, it can not be given out. So do not ask.

SUBMAN1 02-16-06 06:57 PM

It would seem SF is the cause of stuttering in Falcon 4.0 Allied Force

http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/s...ad.php?t=99729

-S

GT182 02-16-06 07:57 PM

Funny thing is there is nothing said about any copy protection being in Falcon 4.0 Allied Force. And, I have the box right here in front of me. Not installed but I do have it.

SUBMAN1 02-16-06 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT182
Funny thing is there is nothing said about any copy protection being in Falcon 4.0 Allied Force. And, I have the box right here in front of me. Not installed but I do have it.

There isn't. Starforce was loaded by another app - its mere presence is what is causing the stuttering. Falcon 4 is copyprotect free. It is just that if Starforce is installed, you get some major stuttering problems when playing F4. Remove StarForce and all your problems go away.

-S

SUBMAN1 02-16-06 08:11 PM

Now this is a classic - pulled form one of the mods on StarForces board. Notice that no one is allowed to say anything negative about SF, and if they do have something bad to say, the mod tells them they are not allowed to post a link to outside websites that validate or back up that information - Lets all just bury our heads in the sand now!


Repost from StarForce website:

Quote:

DG
Nov 8 2005, 04:52 PM
QUOTE(ccap16 @ Nov 8 2005, 01:04 PM) *

Simple- Starforce messes up your SATA drivers.


ccap16,

Please don't post false and insubstantial claims on these forums. While constructive criticism is appreciated - ungrounded and false claims are not. Please also refrain from posting links to web sites that back such information up. StarForce messes up no SATA drivers.


bunnie,

I could advise you to try the following:

1) Install the latest StarForce drivers. You may download them from the following location: http://www.star-force.com/support/sfdrvup.zip

2) Install the latest drivers for your motherboard's chipset. In order to provide you with the relevant link, please tell me what model/brand your motherboard is.

Have a nice day!


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