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August 01-04-13 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1988314)
That nomination in 2016 is looking foggy Mr. Christie. Especially if you keep trashing king crybaby Boner.

John Boehner is not king of anything, especially the Republican party. He has absolutely no control over who they nominate or not.

As for his proclivity for tears, at least they show he has real human emotions. Completely unlike the fake tears your man Obama likes to squeeze out when he senses a political opportunity.

soopaman2 01-04-13 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1988320)
John Boehner is not king of anything, especially the Republican party. He has absolutely no control over who they nominate or not.

As for his proclivity for tears, at least they show he has real human emotions. Completely unlike the fake tears your man Obama likes to squeeze out when he senses a political opportunity.

My man?

Are you not American too?

He's yours too, maybe if people like you supported him he could do alot more, rather than fight him at every turn and put our country into deadlock.

August 01-04-13 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1988325)
My man?

Are you not American too?

He's yours too, maybe if people like you supported him he could do alot more, rather than fight him at every turn and put our country into deadlock.

He may be my president but he is not my man. He's a political animal that belongs to a party who I have even more disdain for than I have for the money grubbing Republicans.

soopaman2 01-04-13 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1988343)
He may be my president but he is not my man. He's a political animal that belongs to a party who I have even more disdain for than I have for the money grubbing Republicans.

Which affirms we need more than 2 parties, or even a parliament type system. I am not trying to start a grudge with you August, your a stand up guy, honest and upright. :salute:

Independant/Green/Libertarian candidates usually lose an election for the other, by drawing away votes from the other 2 parties, kinda used as a pawn to do so at times. (Ross Perot gave the election to Clinton I believe it was, despite being the best candidate of all 3)

Yes, I am liberal by belief, but for some reason, in my 16 years of voting eligibility, I only pulled the Democrat lever twice.

For the most part Dems are to wimpy. But todays crop of extremist Tea Party types has forced me to the opposite.

When I vote these days it is for what I believe to be the lesser of 2 evils. We are broken IMHO, and nothing but a revolution or drastic change in congressional term limits will fix it.
I voted for Christie though, and suggest you do the same, when you see him. He eats his own.

As a Jersey resident, who seen his work, he is a fair man, but stern.

Yeah yeah, fat jokes, Chrispie Kreme, yeah I heard it already, so has he.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOfHeUrnZoY
:D

Repubs oughta be paying me for all this free press I give their 2016 man.:D

Edit: here is another...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDuCCYX_FtA

August 01-04-13 07:53 PM

I have nothing against Christie though I don't know all that much about him. I will tell you that I hold your recommendation in much higher regard than I would a similar statement from some media pundit.

As for third parties I understand their effect on our political system historically but who knows what will happen in the future?

Betonov 01-05-13 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1988351)
Which affirms we need more than 2 parties, or even a parliament type system.

SSDD. Five left parties make a coalition and five right parties make an oposition (or vice versa) and you're de facto with another 2 party system.

One question: are senator/copngresmen votings secret or public ballots :hmmm:

August 01-05-13 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1988477)
One question: are senator/copngresmen votings secret or public ballots :hmmm:

Public

Betonov 01-05-13 04:08 AM

Wouldn't it be better if the ballots were cast secret. No party pressure on the voter

August 01-05-13 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1988502)
Wouldn't it be better if the ballots were cast secret. No party pressure on the voter


Oh you meant votes the public makes to elect a congressman? No those are secret. I thought you were referring the votes the congresscritters themselves make on bills.

Skybird 01-05-13 10:17 AM

Just noted that there is some serious consideration given to the 1-trillion-coin trick, at least by some. So far I thought somebody just made a bad joke.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

:nope:

Betonov 01-05-13 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1988581)
Oh you meant votes the public makes to elect a congressman? No those are secret. I thought you were referring the votes the congresscritters themselves make on bills.

No no, the votes the congresmen make on the bills themselves.

How many votes for a good thing are lost because one is afraid to vote for what he believes is right and votes so he doesn't loose his position in the party :hmmm:

mookiemookie 01-05-13 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1988637)
No no, the votes the congresmen make on the bills themselves.

How many votes for a good thing are lost because one is afraid to vote for what he believes is right and votes so he doesn't loose his position in the party :hmmm:

But then how could we as voters judge the job that the congressperson is doing?

Betonov 01-05-13 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1988652)
But then how could we as voters judge the job that the congressperson is doing?

:hmmm:
I see, thats a problem I'm not fammiliar with


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