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gap 01-10-13 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991009)
That's all folks © :D

I will report within an hour.. maybe two.. :up:

PS: I'm not so silly for such detailed instructions :haha:

Sorry mate,

I used to practice in a laboratory, back in the days I was an university student of biology. Most of what I learned in those years is the importance of following a written method and to record thoroughly even the silliest experiment. Call it an occupational disease ;) :D

THE_MASK 01-10-13 07:16 PM

I looked at the stuka in goblin . It uses 5000 AP shells . Is the plane shells too powerful or something . Change them to AA .

gap 01-10-13 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991058)
news.. good or bad? don't know exactly..

Mission Impossible © :O:

test 1: SH5 + NewUIs + IRAI + Sim.cfg ErrAng=0.00 & 20mm_C30.sim Ammo=1200

clouds: none
fog: none
wind speed: 0 m/s

sub speed: All Stop & Ahead Slow
battlestations: activated
range: close & medium

EDIT: total: four tests - /All Stop+close/ & /All Stop+medium/ & /Ahead Slow+close/ & /Ahead Slow+medium/

no one hit.. at all..

the other tests didn't hold.. I see no reason..
previous tests (in the campaign) I did on a boat 7C with one C38-twin.. there were hits.. often..

Okay, let's do some tests with the C/38 twin, then. :up:

Tomorrow I will do the needed changes to our mission. I need to rest now :yawn: :)

gap 01-10-13 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sober (Post 1991071)
I looked at the stuka in goblin . It uses 5000 AP shells . Is the plane shells too powerful or something . Change them to AA .

Thank you for the headup sober. I haven't looked into the planes yet, but they are in the todo list of this mod :up:

volodya61 01-10-13 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991064)
Sorry mate,

I used to practice in a laboratory, back in the days I was an university student of biology. Most of what I learned in those years is the importance of following a written method and to record thoroughly even the silliest experiment. Call it an occupational disease ;) :D

It's OK..
I can forget or confuse anything, but with your instructions that's not possible.. :up:

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991072)
Okay, let's do some tests with the C/38 twin, then. :up:

Tomorrow I will do the needed changes to our mission. I need to rest now :yawn: :)

OK.. see you tomorrow..

gap 01-10-13 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991084)
It's OK..
I can forget or confuse anything, but with your instructions that's not possible.. :up:
OK.. see you tomorrow..

Give me a moment: since you are still awake and lively, I will adjust the mission right now, so to keep you busy :D

gap 01-10-13 08:21 PM

Sorry, it is taking longer than expected... I've yet to find the right combination of date and U-boat model :-?

You can try one of the airplane missions included in IRAI and in Fx updates, if you want. I've to go now, see ya tomorrow :up:

GT182 01-10-13 10:36 PM

Guys, don't you have to train your gunners in stock SH5... just like we did in SHIII? Once trained well enough they'll knock those Tommies out of the air.

THE_MASK 01-10-13 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182 (Post 1991121)
Guys, don't you have to train your gunners in stock SH5... just like we did in SHIII? Once trained well enough they'll knock those Tommies out of the air.

If that was the case then maybe there should be some anti aircraft training in the OH2 campaign . The first mission could be to shoot down 10 planes in a certain area before heading to the Baltic mission . 10 biplanes or something .

GT182 01-10-13 11:42 PM

If I'm on the right track Sober, then what you say would be a good idea.

THE_MASK 01-11-13 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GT182 (Post 1991135)
If I'm on the right track Sober, then what you say would be a good idea.

maybe its something left over from Sh3/4 . Maybe someone can look at the SH4 files but maybe a hardcoded thing .

volodya61 01-11-13 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991099)
Give me a moment: since you are still awake and lively, I will adjust the mission right now, so to keep you busy :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991106)
Sorry, it is taking longer than expected... I've yet to find the right combination of date and U-boat model :-?

any news? :03:

gap 01-11-13 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991210)
any news? :03:

I was busy this morning. I will work on it just after lunch :up:

volodya61 01-11-13 07:40 AM

I just asked :oops:
Take your time :up:

gap 01-11-13 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991226)
I just asked :oops:
Take your time :up:

Okay, I am again on it :up:

gap 01-11-13 11:19 AM

mmm... I heven't managed yet to bring the C/38 twin in our custom mission...

I have tried changing mission date, tweaking Flak gun's availability dates in UPCDataGE, modifying boat's standard Flaks in their eqp file, but still nothing, depending on mission date and selected U-boat, I was given either the usual single C/30 or a full battery of two 37 mm guns and one FlakVierling :doh:

Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion?

On a side note, when I tested (by mistake) the 37 mm / vierling guns, they hit the Hurricane at the first shot. Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun costantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it :hmmm:

volodya61 01-11-13 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991310)
Under this circumstance, it will be difficult to test each Flak gun. Any suggestion?

Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool :)

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991310)
Aim with the C/30 is totally out of sight even at higher crew rankings. This gun constantly aims under its target by several degrees. I wonder what is wrong with it :hmmm:

The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..
Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1990250)
For some reasons a gunner shoots often below or above the target and it doesn't look like a preemptive shots..
Although the accuracy of the shots in both tests was good but most shots off target


gap 01-11-13 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991316)
Maybe Trevally can help? ME2 is his tool :)

I hope so :D

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Originally Posted by volodya61 (Post 1991316)
The same thing often happened when I did the tests in the campaign with C38-twin..

Yes, but you told me that it occasionally hit the target. For what I've seen, even with elite crew rating, the C/30 is sistematically aiming under its target. During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it. :yep:

Trevally. 01-11-13 12:56 PM

I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

So you need to add your mission as a new layer in a late campaign. This way you can use trigger event spawning to add units etc. (these events do not work in a single player mission)
When you start a campaign (silentotto) you can then kit out your boat with any equipment you want from the dock.

Edit the mission list so that your new layer is the only mission in the campaign (can be done by date) and then when you ask the kmo for a mission - you will get the one you are testing.

This will mean you have to travel to your test area each time (or save for rerun test with same equip), but you can make the test area close to your port.

:up:

volodya61 01-11-13 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 1991324)
During my tests it didn't score a single hit, and I think your tests in the same mission confirm it. :yep:

Seems like a C/30 is initially broken flak-gun.. :nope:

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Originally Posted by Trevally. (Post 1991349)
I would suggest that you test your missions in the campaign as this will give you full control over what you are testing.

It's hard to me.. I'm still not able to make a single mission.. too lazy to figure out how ME2 work.. :D


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