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Originally Posted by Squirtikiss

What is wrong with him badmouthing his employer? Because of his employer, I am not buying SHIV. My download speed is 3kb/sec. I cannot have my telephone offline for the DAYS it would take to download the current patch. If his employers do not want to be bad-mouthed, then they should change the way they do business.

The 1.3 patch is so big because it includes the 1.2 patch which includes the 1.1 patch. This way, anyone who buys SH4 (hopefully) needs to download only one patch to be up to date.

SH4 + 1.3 patch + Trigger Maru 1.3a + CBS radio mod = All SH4 expectations fufilled.

Untill 1.3 came out, SH4 was on hold for me. Now it runs like I envisoned.

I guess having a 7 Mbps cable line helps with the speedy downloading.

So all I can say in response to the original poster is:

Special thanks and Cudos to:

- UBI for a great sim and ongoing support.
- Ducimus for your visionary TM 1.3a Mod pack.
- Captain Cox for your CBS Radio News Mod.

I must admit, I am a big "fan" of the Sub Sim genre, and "boy" that must stick in some peoples craw. :rotfl:

To those that don't like SH4 and grumble about it. heres a hint. When I was not playing SH4 while waiting for patch 1.3... I was playing something else... It did not carry the same Rant value as some of the more colorful posts made out of protest. But it passed the time until the devs continued to " support " the game.

There is no comparison to Falcon 4 and Microprose here. Because I have that sim too. and the current owners of that game still have not been able to fix the complete game freezes I got way back in the MP days. There is nothing worse than being in a dogfight with a mig for several minutes to get into gun position only to have the screen freeze up when I finaly pull that trigger.. A decade gone by, 3 progressive empowered computers, 2 companies, and still the same hard crash requiring a power off reboot.

I have never gone back. Only so many "years" of that I can take. But I have NEVER had SH4 crash on me. not even upon release without a patch... And it has not even been a year since it's release.

Apples and Oranges my friends.. everything else is moot.

http://www.f4hq.com/default.php?page=faq&question=46

"Falcon 4.0 Allied Force is relatively stable. Perhaps something went wrong during the installation or patching procces. We sugest to reinstall Falcon 4.0 Allied force."

About 10 years gone by since release and F4 is " relatively stable? ", "reinstall?" I have reinstalled that thing over 100 times, 30 diffrent ways on 3 different computers... and it still crashes...

What next? " Check your drivers " ? LOL

:hmm:

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Originally Posted by maerean_m

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Originally Posted by heartc

Oh, Ok. Then he should be fired - like - yesterday. There is NO way that you talk about YOUR company like that. I'm working my ass of for my own company as well, and it isn't always fair, and it isn't always easy, but there is NO way I would spill my mouth about MY COMPANY in the public like that. Because in the end, the "+" you see on your bank account is from YOUR COMPANY. You made a deal with them: You work for them, you offer your skills for them, and for this, you get the "+" on your bank account. The deal did not include badmouthing YOUR COMPANY, let alone among YOUR COMPANIE's customers, while still readily accepting the money you get from YOUR COMPANY at the same time. So, if you want to badmouth YOUR COMPANY, you should leave it beforehand. Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

Just my opinion. What the **** is wrong with people.

Let us suppose you work for 3-4 month, non stop, including all Saturdays and Sundays. Every month has 170 working hours and yet they make squeeze another 90 (ninety) extra hours every month. You barely get to see you girlfriend\wife, let alone your parents. And what if you were the lucky guy that only worked 9h/day and others, like the Lead Designer, had to work until midnight (in many days) to get those subs working.

Let us suppose your colleagues are incredibly good professionals but the team is not left in peace to work its magic and the results are called SH4 v1.0 . If SH4 was a console game, there wouldn't have been any patch, including 1.1 . I dare you play SH4 out of the box.

After that, the team is scattered, working on other various projects and very few are left to work and create patch 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3. Imagine the quality of the work done inside SH4 if only a couple of the team members could get it to the 1.3 state in such a short time. It means the project was almost there, it just wasn't allowed to be completed.

In the end, let us suppose that you begin to see the bosses coming to work in brand new, incredibly expensive cars, even though no dev team member received any bonus money.

After 4 months of continuous work, you are so tired you're getting physically ill.

So I'm wondering, what do you actually mean by "MY company"? I'm just one of the 3000 working-ants there. I work to earn a living, I'm not their bought out slave, the way you seem to think.

I come here, among friends, to talk about the game we all love and play in our spare time (including mine). And maybe improving the game, using the tools each one of us has. So the game gets in a state in which I can read the posts here and be proud about Silent Hunter 4. Imagine how the dev team felt when they were presented with the dvd containing SH4 v1.0 and they read the posts here .

Thankfuly, Subsim is not "Ubi forums". If you want an official opinion about SH4, you go there and talk to the support team guys (that we didn't meet and don't even know in what country they're located in).

I'm not trying to hurt anybody, all I'm talking about is being allowed to be proud about my work. Doesn't everybody?

Edit:

Did you know that SH4 team never got the time to actually play the game (like stop working and play it for a month (or a week, or a day)) ? Only the testers did play it, but they only report bugs they understand, because they don't play Silent Hunter the way you do. They didn't notice the stadimeter was buged when using imperial units (you guys were the only ones that reported it).

So, What the **** is wrong with people?

Thankyou for all your hardwork Maerean! It is common knowledge to diehard pc gamers the kind of hell you devs go through. Especially those unfortunate enough to work for EA or Ubi. Remember the pissed off significant other that blew the whistle on EA's treatment of the Battle for Middle Earth dev crew a few years back? Gamewatch.org has a forum dedicated to worker treatment a rather interesting read. http://www.gamewatch.org/phpBB2/view...620685f37c449b

SH4 is better than ever thanks to you and your coworkers keep up the good work!