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Fifi 04-27-22 04:32 AM

For future update:
Reworked helmsman head and changed clothes:

https://i.goopics.net/4y4b9o.jpg

Added new guy near hydro station:

https://i.goopics.net/76c02r.jpg

Fixed second guy face and changed clothes:

https://i.goopics.net/3iokf5.jpg

New cook better looking:

https://i.goopics.net/ak96m8.jpg

And… added new crew also for type IX !
- helmsman in command room
- helmsman in conning tower
- guy near hydrophone

Now I will see what I can do for type II …

:Kaleun_Salute:

GrenSo 04-27-22 05:53 AM

:Kaleun_Applaud:

Fifi 04-29-22 07:45 AM

U-Boat destroyed by depth charges at 205 meters depth... of 5 escorts chasing me in Jan 43...
Was too optimist to attack this convoy when flat sea :timeout:
Those escorts are damn good in NYGM, they drop DC where i will go...good anticipation… no other mod have escorts like this!

https://i.goopics.net/7t57j5.jpg

https://i.goopics.net/8yd359.jpg

John Pancoast 04-29-22 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2806206)
U-Boat destroyed by depth charges at 205 meters depth... of 5 escorts chasing me in Jan 43...
Was too optimist to attack this convoy when flat sea :timeout:
Those escorts are damn good in NYGM, they drop DC where i will go...good anticipation… no other mod have escorts like this!


You need to go deeper. A lot deeper. :) Get down to 250 or so meters and get their fast, go at one knot and you'll escape.

Fifi 04-29-22 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2806212)
You need to go deeper. A lot deeper. :) Get down to 250 or so meters and get their fast, go at one knot and you'll escape.

Yes you are right … on other hand I’m trying to not cheat the game … I knew before this attack I should avoid it. The sea state was too flat! Very bad idea…

John Pancoast 04-29-22 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2806240)
Yes you are right … on other hand I’m trying to not cheat the game … I knew before this attack I should avoid it. The sea state was too flat! Very bad idea…

Actually iirc ace u-boat killer Donald Macintyre said asdic was not very effective in real calm seas so maybe don't consider it cheating the game. :D

Fifi 04-29-22 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2806241)
Actually iirc ace u-boat killer Donald Macintyre said asdic was not very effective in real calm seas so maybe don't consider it cheating the game. :D

Yes, but they have good hydrophone too :)

John Pancoast 04-29-22 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2806251)
Yes, but they have good hydrophone too :)

He (and others too iirc) never used them as he considered them archaic technology. Grab a copy of his "U-Boat Killer" book. Interesting stuff.

Levyathan89 04-29-22 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2806253)
He (and others too iirc) never used them as he considered them archaic technology.

That seems a little silly tbh. The Germans made tests with hydrophones to check a U-Boat's noise emissions. It turned out a commander giving his orders in normal speaking voice could be heard from 2 nautical miles away (under ideal conditions i suppose) oO

John Pancoast 04-29-22 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levyathan89 (Post 2806282)
That seems a little silly tbh. The Germans made tests with hydrophones to check a U-Boat's noise emissions. It turned out a commander giving his orders in normal speaking voice could be heard from 2 nautical miles away (under ideal conditions i suppose) oO

Well, his/their record speaks for itself.

Fifi 04-30-22 01:37 AM

Anyway… I always used to observe from external camera the escorts behavior (essentially for tests & screen shots purposes) and watch where and when they drop DC. Can tell you I never saw such smart behavior in any other megamod :yep:
I don’t know how Stiebler made this radical smart escort change.
It’s not the fact they know where you are after some pings (common to all megamods) but the anticipation of your path, dropping DC where you are AND where you are heading at same time ! :)
On side note, I also had 5 (!) guys on my ass… others games always gave me 2 or 3…

John Pancoast 04-30-22 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2806323)
Anyway… I always used to observe from external camera the escorts behavior (essentially for tests & screen shots purposes) and watch where and when they drop DC. Can tell you I never saw such smart behavior in any other megamod :yep:
I don’t know how Stiebler made this radical smart escort change.
It’s not the fact they know where you are after some pings (common to all megamods) but the anticipation of your path, dropping DC where you are AND where you are heading at same time ! :)
On side note, I also had 5 (!) guys on my ass… others games always gave me 2 or 3…


:up: Be sure to try his version of the late war Inshore Campaign too, good stuff ! And his books are must reads.

Fifi 04-30-22 05:10 AM

Next update in few days… I fixed few things such as type II interior + crew, DF Antennas (and the IID was bugged), others minors adjustments and plenty new skins for all escorts depending years (via Commander) :yeah:

Kal_Maximus_U669 04-30-22 08:51 AM

DD
 
Hello Fifi
I am delighted with the roadmap that you have planned..
I confirm that there is a real atmosphere of attack..
I can tell you that destroyers are very intelligent...
my crew first spots a freighter from Denmark.. after being disappointed not to be able to shoot it down.. "funel smoke on the horizon" again I see two destroyers arriving by about 12 km I just took the time to watch for a few minutes.. when suddenly... they made the decision to go straight for me... the sea was choppy in 13ms clear weather around 4:00 p.m....
problem no bottom no more than 45 meters.. off the English coast... immediately I dive at maximum speed and try to get closer to the cargo ship so that its noise covers me. As well as his presence. Quickly reposition ready to attack.... These destroyers are coming straight at me....so he saw me from afar...immediately we behaved aggressively...I sank one....at the same now guess what...? the aviation that appears... they did not hesitate to attack me... even being not very far from the freighter. Then I avoid a few passes of grenades while suffering minor damage.. then.. I try to sink the last one... I have 2 torpedoes left then... an attack opening presents itself.. I attack... the first the torpedo went under the keel... the other one was worth it... he managed to avoid it... then he came back to make me pay for my mistake and I ended up at the bottom...
Thank you for your work where we feel a real adventure.. thank you for "SH3_jimimadrid_Torpedos" which works very well for the moment.. after some patrol is some preliminary test..
See you soon, Kal Maximus U669:salute::up:

John Pancoast 04-30-22 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal_Maximus_U669 (Post 2806368)
Hello Fifi
Hello Fifi
I am delighted with the roadmap that you have planned..
I confirm that there is a real atmosphere of attack..
I can tell you that destroyers are very intelligent...
my crew first spots a freighter from Denmark.. after being disappointed not to be able to shoot it down.. "funel smoke on the horizon" again I see two destroyers arriving by about 12 km I just took the time to watch for a few minutes.. when suddenly... they made the decision to go straight for me... the sea was choppy in 13ms clear weather around 4:00 p.m....
problem no bottom no more than 45 meters.. off the English coast... immediately I dive at maximum speed and try to get closer to the cargo ship so that its noise covers me. As well as his presence. Quickly reposition ready to attack.... These destroyers are coming straight at me....so he saw me from afar...immediately we behaved aggressively...I sank one....at the same now guess what...? the aviation that appears... they did not hesitate to attack me... even being not very far from the freighter. Then I avoid a few passes of grenades while suffering minor damage.. then.. I try to sink the last one... I have 2 torpedoes left then... an attack opening presents itself.. I attack... the first the torpedo went under the keel... the other one was worth it... he managed to avoid it... then he came back to make me pay for my mistake and I ended up at the bottom...
Thank you for your work where we feel a real adventure.. thank you for "SH3_jimimadrid_Torpedos" which works very well for the moment.. after some patrol is some preliminary test..
See you soon, Kal Maximus U669:salute::up:

Shallow water attacks are asking to be sunk, also fwiw, cargo ship noise doesn't cover one's boat/isn't modeled in SH3.
But it's still a good idea to use them for physical roadblocks against escorts.


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