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Alpheratz 03-02-21 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2733317)
v.2.2.23 update is ready, I only need to write down change log...:yep:

Vecko, I'm afraid I was late with this, but I just now got the idea to use the separate F-Tafel tables in the TWoS RealNav documentation. "Dip & Ref STARS" and "Dip & Ref SUN" can replace the "DipAndRefractionTable" we talked about. If it is already impossible to include them as Charts in the game, then I hope they can be included in the documentation, if only this does not complicate your work.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bD?usp=sharing

derstosstrupp 03-02-21 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2733688)
Vecko, I'm afraid I was late with this, but I just now got the idea to use the separate F-Tafel tables in the TWoS RealNav documentation. "Dip & Ref STARS" and "Dip & Ref SUN" can replace the "DipAndRefractionTable" we talked about. If it is already impossible to include them as Charts in the game, then I hope they can be included in the documentation, if only this does not complicate your work.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bD?usp=sharing

The Gesamtbeschickung from the F-Tafel is definitely easier as an all-in-one adjustment!

vdr1981 03-03-21 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2733688)
Vecko, I'm afraid I was late with this, but I just now got the idea to use the separate F-Tafel tables in the TWoS RealNav documentation. "Dip & Ref STARS" and "Dip & Ref SUN" can replace the "DipAndRefractionTable" we talked about. If it is already impossible to include them as Charts in the game, then I hope they can be included in the documentation, if only this does not complicate your work.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bD?usp=sharing


Not a big problem Alpheratz, we'll add new charts and documentation in the next TWoS update. :yep: Until then, people actually interested in celestial navigation are probably already aware of your doc changes...

Alpheratz 03-03-21 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2733722)
Not a big problem Alpheratz, we'll add new charts and documentation in the next TWoS update. :yep: Until then, people actually interested in celestial navigation are probably already aware of your doc changes...

Great, Vecko! Thanks for your work!:up:

Alpheratz 03-05-21 01:28 PM

Real Navigation Tutorial in Russian
 
For commanders from Russia, I started publishing training videos on real navigation in Russian.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...cuKgtQ-1d2cTM2

Ypsan 03-11-21 02:07 PM

Hi Alpheratz!

Many thanks for your reply few weeks back. Making your self available for questions is really nice of you. I will have some very soon as I'm about to dive in in more advanced stuff now.

It's been a bit slow on my part as I was busy with other things, still I've started watching your videos and getting the hang of basics. After I graduated school of navigation level 2.2 I felt confident and skipped ahead to the one where you use Kriegsmarine tables. Yikes! No more skipping. :o

Also, I see Vecko already implemented it in the new update. Amazing stuff and can't wait to try it out this weekend! :salute:

Alpheratz 03-11-21 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ypsan (Post 2735526)
Hi Alpheratz!

Many thanks for your reply few weeks back. Making your self available for questions is really nice of you. I will have some very soon as I'm about to dive in in more advanced stuff now.

It's been a bit slow on my part as I was busy with other things, still I've started watching your videos and getting the hang of basics. After I graduated school of navigation level 2.2 I felt confident and skipped ahead to the one where you use Kriegsmarine tables. Yikes! No more skipping. :o

Also, I see Vecko already implemented it in the new update. Amazing stuff and can't wait to try it out this weekend! :salute:

Hi Ypsan! :salute: Indeed, it is better to go through the training in the order that corresponds to the playlist on my channel: there the training material is given from simple to complex and you can trace the relationship between the videos, so you definitely won't miss anything. I made a video about Kriegsmarine tables for demonstration purposes, to show that it works in order to interest the public. Taking into account the latest changes in 2.2.23 update, this video needs revision and I will already record a detailed training video on working with Kriegsmarine tables, but this will already be the final level of the navigation school. :yep:

Alpheratz 03-14-21 06:14 PM

+ 37 navigational stars
 
The celestial coordinates of 37 more navigation stars have been clarified.

https://hostingkartinok.com/show-ima...eb15346ed2cc72

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16-W...ew?usp=sharing

Now all 58 tabular stars are available for celestial navigation. The necessary changes have been made to the file stars.txt, which must be updated for the sextant to work correctly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jm9...ew?usp=sharing

derstosstrupp 03-14-21 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2736277)
The celestial coordinates of 37 more navigation stars have been clarified.

https://hostingkartinok.com/show-ima...eb15346ed2cc72

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16-W...ew?usp=sharing

Now all 58 tabular stars are available for celestial navigation. The necessary changes have been made to the file stars.txt, which must be updated for the sextant to work correctly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jm9...ew?usp=sharing

Great work Alpheratz! Thanks!

vdr1981 03-15-21 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2736277)
The celestial coordinates of 37 more navigation stars have been clarified.

https://hostingkartinok.com/show-ima...eb15346ed2cc72

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16-W...ew?usp=sharing

Now all 58 tabular stars are available for celestial navigation. The necessary changes have been made to the file stars.txt, which must be updated for the sextant to work correctly: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jm9...ew?usp=sharing

Thanks Alpheratz! :up: I've already prepared v2.2.24 update with few fixes you've proposed previously...I guess these files should go in it as well? New navigation stars doc can be added to the in game charts in addition to the already existing nav stars chart? Correct?

Alpheratz 03-15-21 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2736345)
Thanks Alpheratz! :up: I've already prepared v2.2.24 update with few fixes you've proposed previously...I guess these files should go in it as well? New navigation stars doc can be added to the in game charts in addition to the already existing nav stars chart? Correct?

Hi Vecko!:salute: Yes, it's worth adding Navigational Stars List 1 and List 2, as a Charts in game, as I've updated in the TWoS RealNav Documentation folder.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bD?usp=sharing

In the first list of 21 stars, I made some cosmetic fixes by removing the unnecessary info. If it is not difficult for you, replace the previously added file "SH5 navigational stars (rev.2021)" with "SH5 navigational stars. List 1"

vdr1981 03-15-21 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2736354)
Hi Vecko!:salute: Yes, it's worth adding Navigational Stars List 1 and List 2, as a Charts in game, as I've updated in the TWoS RealNav Documentation folder.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bD?usp=sharing

In the first list of 21 stars, I made some cosmetic fixes by removing the unnecessary info. If it is not difficult for you, replace the previously added file "SH5 navigational stars (rev.2021)" with "SH5 navigational stars. List 1"

:up::up::up: No problem!

No changes to the other charts?

Alpheratz 03-15-21 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2736357)
:up::up::up: No problem!

No changes to the other charts?

None, except those that we discussed earlier :yep:

Alpheratz 03-15-21 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2736362)
None, except those that we discussed earlier :yep:

The only thing, it seems to me that Star Charts Equatorial, Equatorial II, Northern, Southern seem to me uninformative in the form in which they are presented in the game. But this is just my opinion, so I would like everyone interested to write their opinion, is it worth replacing them with the options I proposed?

NavStarsChart 1 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJj...ew?usp=sharing

NavStarsChart 2 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v1M...ew?usp=sharing

NavStarsChart 3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-KX...ew?usp=sharing

Alpheratz 03-15-21 07:20 AM

In my division of the three Charts, I was guided by the following considerations Chart 1 - 21 stars, which are easy to find. Chart 2 - stars that are easy to find relative to the stars from Chart 1 and which can be most in demand in celestial navigation along with the stars from the first list. Chart 3 - the rest of the stars, which, IMO, may be less required for practical reasons.


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