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Catfish 05-04-21 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2745927)
Interesting article on why ICE will never go away completely.
This reason to be the most compelling to me:

" ... looked at the U.K.’s climate goals and the requirement that all its vehicles be converted to electricity by 2050. Doing so, they found, would require the entire world’s production of neodymium, three quarters of the world’s lithium production, and at least half of the world’s copper production during 2018. And remember, that’s just for the U.K"

https://www.realclearenergy.org/arti...ay_651051.html
Oh dear, seems they will have to invade the world once more for their energy goals :yeah:

AVGWarhawk 05-04-21 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2745934)
Oh dear, seems they will have to invade the world once more for their energy goals :yeah:
It appears every country will need to invade the world for their energy goals. History repeating itself? I stand firm that EV and only part of answer to climate change. ICE will be here for a very long time.

Skybird 05-04-21 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2745936)
ICE will be here for a very long time.
No wonder they are so often late on arrival then.
https://www.fr.de/bilder/2020/07/15/...5BrqrKq2a7.jpg

August 05-04-21 03:14 PM
I'm telling you guys, Global warming is the only thing staving off the next ice age which I understand is seriously overdue. Winning the fight against climate change may only spell our doom. :up:

AVGWarhawk 05-04-21 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2745982)
I'm telling you guys, Global warming is the only thing staving off the next ice age which I understand is seriously overdue. Winning the fight against climate change may only spell our doom. :up:
Well, if we tax it that will solve the issue.

Catfish 05-04-21 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2745982)
I'm telling you guys, Global warming is the only thing staving off the next ice age which I understand is seriously overdue. Winning the fight against climate change may only spell our doom. :up:
"Not if we destroy earth first."

AVGWarhawk 05-04-21 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2745985)
"Not if we destroy earth first."
Can this be taxed? :hmmm:

mapuc 05-04-21 03:29 PM
The solution is easy

Just let the bureaucrats make some law in where Global warming is illegal.

See problem solved

Markus

Catfish 05-04-21 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2745985)
"Not if we destroy earth first."
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2745986)
Can this be taxed? :hmmm:
It already is :03:

Quote:
Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2745987)
The solution is easy
Just let the bureaucrats make some law in where Global warming is illegal.
See problem solved
Markus
:har: i guess that's the EU way

Jeff-Groves 05-04-21 03:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLbakWESkw&t=2s

Skybird 04-29-22 06:42 AM
Tesla teaches fear to German premium car makers - and shows how far in lead it really is. Their five year old car still beats Germans' newest e-cars in all relevant categories, namely range.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp


I once laughed about tesla, too. But no more.

Catfish 04-29-22 04:30 PM
It is one thing to make money, it is an entirely different thing to be energetically better.

Skybird 04-29-22 04:40 PM
Tesla scores in both. Range is, as the article says, the big deficit in even recent German e-cars. 5 year old Tesla model trumps them. Trumps them in sales numbers as well.


I nevertheless still wouldn't have one.

mapuc 04-29-22 04:48 PM
I didn't read the article fully just partial.

What I wonder is: Have they solved the temp problems.

Meaning during Summer a electric car can go up to 5-600 km on one charge-During winter with temp below zero the same car can only go 2-300 km on one charge.

Markus

Skybird 04-29-22 05:00 PM
Thats a problem every battery has, car battery or not, Tesla as well as any other.

My bicycle batteries loose in winter 20-30% range of their effective range when temps are above lets say 10°C. I notice differences below 5°, in the range 5-15°, and above 15°.

What would keep me away is the enormous value loss of e-cars with aging batteries. Its insane and turns the claim e-mobility would be ecologically sustainable a carricature. Throw away cars indeed.

And making batteries is in itself a VERY dirty affair, too.



I do not buy this marketing hype and political hype about battery mobility.


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