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Oberon 03-30-15 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D (Post 2302359)
Aren*t those 150+ dead, victims of our terror paranoia policy which we have since 9/11? This would have not happened on an "old school" airplane where kids could visit the pilot*s cabin for show. Instead we have heavily fortified pilot cabin's where the chief pilot can't get back in -under some circumstances- when he goes for a pee. There is something wrong there.

Catch-22. There are, I believe anyway, more terror related incidents with aircraft then there are suicide ones. Pilot murder/suicides have happened before 9/11 though. If they are a victim of anything, it is perhaps an overreliance on technology and the reduction of the number of crewmembers on the flight-deck at any one time. Back when there was a flight engineer this would have been immaterial since there would have been another person in the cockpit, but there you go. It's sad, but most safety measures come into place post-disaster, so hopefully these peoples deaths were not in vain.

Nippelspanner 04-02-15 04:08 AM

Apparently, a passenger of the flight made a video - of the crash - with his cellphone.
A French reporter claims to have seen the video and has no doubt it is authentic.
What he describes to have seen or rather heard in the video, is gut-wrenching.

I have no reason not to believe him.

Jimbuna 04-02-15 06:02 AM

Most disturbing.

mapuc 04-02-15 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner (Post 2303028)
Apparently, a passenger of the flight made a video - of the crash - with his cellphone.
A French reporter claims to have seen the video and has no doubt it is authentic.
What he describes to have seen or rather heard in the video, is gut-wrenching.

I have no reason not to believe him.

Interesting video and I say the same as you - have no reason

Then I read this on a Danish news side

(used google translate)

"No video from the plane has yet been published. Investigators have said that there has not yet been found video recordings from the plane"

This sentence is from an article in the Danish online newspaper EB

Markus

HunterICX 04-03-15 03:54 AM

So does our national news broadcast channel, they are questioning the genuinity of the claimed footage as well. Rescue workers and the local authorities on the crash site have reported to haven't found anything (yet) on the mobile phones they have recovered and why would a rescue worker deliver that to some tabloids instead of the authorities to help the investigation?

So untill they show the footage they claim to have in their possesion I am questioning if the guy is speaking the truth.

danasan 04-03-15 05:39 AM

The German Boulevard press would pay almost any money for a video or item like that, especially the one which claims to have seen the video (Bildzeitung).

Remember the Hitler Diaries (another print media involved) which did cost a LOT!

Von Tonner 04-03-15 09:01 AM

Paris - The second black box recovered from the wreckage of Germanwings flight 4U9525 shows that the co-pilot accelerated the aircraft as it descended into the Alps, French aviation officials said Friday.

French aviation authority BEA also said that the flight data recorder confirms that Andreas Lubitz changed the autopilot to lower the plane to an altitude of 100 feet, a figure that experts have speculated was likely the lowest that it could have been set at.

The changes, which caused the Airbus A320's demise and killed all 150 people on board, have opened a raft of investigations into the culpability of Lubitz.

According to audio recordings, Lubitz locked the cockpit door and was alone while changing the flight controls. German prosecutors have revealed that Lubitz searched for suicide methods and cockpit locking mechanisms online during the week prior to the fatal crash.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Ger...gn=Newsletters

Von Tonner 04-05-15 08:43 AM

Not looking good for Lufthansa at all.

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Berlin - Germany's aviation regulator says it had no previous knowledge of Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz's struggle with severe depression before the disaster in the French Alps, says a media report.

The Federal Aviation Office (LBA) told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that parent company Lufthansa had given it "no information about the medical background" of Lubitz, who prosecutors allege deliberately crashed the plane, killing all 150 people on board.
And more damning.

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In particular, Lufthansa physicians who examined Lubitz did not make the authorities aware of his "earlier phase of serious depression", the report quoted the LBA, which issues pilots' licences, as saying.

It said it first learned of Lubitz's mental health problems when it gained access to his file at Lufthansa's Aeromedical Centre on 27 March, three days after the crash.
If, after the investigation has been completed, the report finds Lufthansa withheld crucial information pertaining to the mental health of Lubitz from the German aviation authorities then I would imagine there will be serious repercussions for the airline - legal, as well as compensation claims, even with possible charges of criminality laid at some personnel.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Reg...gn=Newsletters


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