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Such a knowledge of scripture.

Come on wolfie darling you can do better than that, surely sweetie you must be able to find a line that is even remotely relevant.


What arguement?
He has yet to make one which doesn't refute itself by its own patheticness.

"christian identity" is enough of a reason to rip the piss, they are a sick bunch of puppies.

I don't know about that...

Sounds pretty relevant to me. Just not the way he might think.

You mean its a bit like the ladyboy doth protest too much, but not in a gay way of course?:rotfl2:

Is it that he again manages to simply and quickly destroy his own lame attempt at making sense. :yep:
If his views were not so sick and twisted you could almost feel sorry for him couldn't you.

So you think that "sexual perversion" is not possible if some sort of religious sharia?
As far as i can tell you are very mistaken here.
Just make some inquiry into some religious led states with harsh punishments and so on...the lies are even greater there and you cant even whisper about it besides denying that it exists because admitting would mean a failure of the system....(Vatican's conduct in some cases could be a good example too) well... that might be your cup of tea spoon...bone?:03:
Oh yeah... you are talking about christian sharia so it would be much different...right?

Are you some sort of shi"ite christian...whats the matter with you?:down::haha:

You guys are still at this...? :o :timeout:

It started with sexual morals lined out on the basis of religious ideology, ignoring that said ideology's clerics have a big problem with sexual abberations within their own rows, and that statistics say - I quote by the books of Dawkins and Hitchens again* - that crime numbers related to rape and sexual assault are higher in red states than in blue states.

It then went to an "argument" over "holy scriptures" like the bible being historically original, being historically accurate and beign well-founded in their sources and ways by which they got delivered, ignoring that almost every theologican, as long as he is no ultra-hardcore fundamentalist extremist brute force type of guy, today denies that the scriptures are historically correct. I again refer to the two books mentioned above where the authors rip the christmas story and books of Moses, parts of Jesus' claimed historical biography apart and leave nothing but rags of paper of it - not by rethorical means, but basing on the many inner contradictions the Bible includes in its statements and timetables. it makes historical claims on names and events and timetables of which we know that they are simply wrong, plain and simply historically wrong.

Next comes the mandatory trading back and forth of Bible references, as if that would prove anything and would improve the miserable record of authenticity, or as if systemtically sorting bible quotes by a random patterns would turn the content of the quotes into something less fictional. The Bible is neither a book of science nor a book of truth, it is a collection of fictional pieces written by a huge plethora of authors who based on hear-say, rumours, lip-delivered historical stories of their time, and most of that, if not all, is illustrating only the way in which the people with that limited knowledge of their time tried to make sense of the world around them. Taking that as an authority means to deny everything that has taken place in the past 2 thousand years and denying any increase in scientific understanding of cosmos, biology, environment, physics, mathematics, medicine - you name it.

Bible swingers making remarks on sexual perversions - that combo alone should let your brain mode jump from active to standbye. When not just somebody but religious people start to lecture about sexuality and morals, I immediately switch off. By the historic record of religions and their effect on the world, nobody is more unqualified to comment on morals and sexuality, then religious people.

So guys, don't you have something better to do with your time?

For German readers, a random find that I had last week when searching the archive for something.
Jesus wollte diese Kirche nicht
Eugen Drewermann in an interview from early 90s. He is a theologist and psychotherapist, has fought bitter battles with the church (they finally separated in anger), and is the most profound critic and attacker of the church's dogma available in German language. His book "Kleriker. Psychogramm eines Ideals" is seen by not few as the most devastating and insightful attack against the church and its personell that has been written until today. It describes , amongst others, the massive accumulation of personality defomations to be seen amongst clerics' ranks, and how the church and its dogma are causing this and are responisble for this. But be warned, the book is demanding, and is thick: 900 pages.

*Dawkins: The God Delusion; Hitchens: God is not Great

About time someone derails this thread.
Soooo, how many of you do gardening ??

"Well, it started badly, it tailed off a bit in the middle and the less said about the end the better, but apart from that it was excellent!"

My bonsai tree is doing great. I'm hoping it will have leaves once my grand child finally inherits it.

I live in block of flats. That means closest I could get of gardening would be as 'acting rake specialist' in autumn. :shifty:

I have an amaryllis in a pot outside my patio that I just can't get to bloom. Grr...

The only thing blooming in my home are my neuroses.

Good one. I think we all cultivate that garden a little.:D

Which one? At my (very limited) understanding some need tropical conditions.

A personal feeling for which you have no evidence. You might as well say that all heterosexuals are perverts because some like little girls.

A valid argument. The problem is that even if all molesters of boys are homosexuals it doesn't follow that all homosexuals molest boys. See my comment immediately above.

No one has attempted to silence the issue. No one has even attempted to silence your ludicrous attempts to equate all gays with one man's sickness. We have only attempted to show you your own perversion of hatred.

It has been suggested that the OP is secretly rather fond of uphill gardening.