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Tribesman 03-25-12 04:14 AM
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What else is he saying?
Since the subject is "a war against Iran" isn't that the most valid piece for this topic?
Or would you like to go onto his views on Syria and Assads relationship with the Shia theocrats in Iran? or maybe Irans relationship with Hez and Hamas? Challenges in Jordan maybe, developments in Egypt, problems with the bedouin?

Do you just have a particular problem with him saying that the action being widely and loudly touted as the path to follow is simply bloody stupid?

MH 03-25-12 04:41 AM
What else did he say on topic?

Tribesman 03-25-12 06:45 AM
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What else did he say on topic?
deal with what he said. Agfter all calling it the stupidest idea he has ever heard is a pretty strong statement.
Whatsamatter is your usual line of bunkervision bull run into a brick wall on this example.
Surely there must be one of your usual lines you can trot out to say he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.

MH 03-25-12 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860489)
deal with what he said. Agfter all calling it the stupidest idea he has ever heard is a pretty strong statement.
Whatsamatter is your usual line of bunkervision bull run into a brick wall on this example.
Surely there must be one of your usual lines you can trot out to say he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.


:hmmm:
Did i ever say any thing remotely like that or is it something that you would like to hear.?
My God ... you are jerk.

But its always the same with you....push the button get the bacon.
Same old pattern....i simply talk to you in your own language my dear wife.
LOL

Jimbuna 03-25-12 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860489)
deal with what he said. Agfter all calling it the stupidest idea he has ever heard is a pretty strong statement.
Whatsamatter is your usual line of bunkervision bull run into a brick wall on this example.
Surely there must be one of your usual lines you can trot out to say he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.
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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1860571)
:hmmm:
Did i ever say any thing remotely like that or is it something that you would like to hear.?
My God ... you are jerk.

But its always the same with you....push the button get the bacon.
Same old pattern....i simply talk to you in your own language my dear wife.
LOL

Okay...I've asked in a manner expected of me but to no avail...the next instance of name calling and or insult will necessitate some form of remedial action.

The line has been drawn.

Tribesman 03-25-12 02:13 PM
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Did i ever say any thing remotely like that or is it something that you would like to hear.?
Every instance of them can come from your own posts regarding the middle east situation. Would you like to go back through them?

Do you suffer from memory loss and fail to remember your own comments
It is far too easy to shoot you down on that angle it is ridiculous that you should even try to defend yourself along those lines.
So......

You was asked a simple question about the comments from the ex-head of Mossad in relation to this topic.
If you are uncomfortable with the plain truth expressed by him which anyone can see then simply say so, after all it is you and your family that gets the first round of consequences.
After all it is a simple question to answer.....is the current regimes beating of the war drums bloody stupid considering they know how inneffective the results would be despite their recently enhanced capabilities and taking into account the exhorbitant price the people would pay for those actions.

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The line has been drawn.
It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?


For those that didn't get it , the person in question was the head of Mossad and his comments reflect exactly those of the bloke that was head of Shin Bet.
Bit of a sticker when it comes to the usual lines of defence MH regularly trots out regarding the mid-east

MH 03-25-12 02:21 PM
MH
 
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860661)
Every instance of them can come from your own posts regarding the middle east situation. Would you like to go back through them?

Do you suffer from memory loss and fail to remember your own comments
It is far too easy to shoot you down on that angle it is ridiculous that you should even try to defend yourself along those lines.
So......

You was asked a simple question about the comments from the ex-head of Mossad in relation to this topic.
If you are uncomfortable with the plain truth expressed by him which anyone can see then simply say so, after all it is you and your family that gets the first round of consequences.
After all it is a simple question to answer.....is the current regimes beating of the war drums bloody stupid considering they know how inneffective the results would be despite their recently enhanced capabilities and taking into account the exhorbitant price the people would pay for those actions.


It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?


For those that didn't get it , the person in question was the head of Mossad and his comments reflect exactly those of the bloke that was head of Shin Bet.
Bit of a sticker when it comes to the usual lines of defence MH regularly trots out regarding the mid-east

lol
What commets exactly?

Thanks for complainant .... not every day i get contradicted(?) by chef of shin bet and Mossad.:DL

Tribesman 03-25-12 03:00 PM
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What commets exactly
Halley or De Havilland?

he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.:yeah:
Hows about a dozen examples of you somehow describing Isrealis as not understanding Israel and what it means to be in Israel?
Extreme revisionist zionists somehow becoming"liberals" perhaps
Maybe a dozen silly accusations of anti semitism, especialy good when you call Jewish people as somehow anti semites.

It does raise a few questions though regarding what was written that you apparently responded to(as in "to" not really to but sort of roughly not in the line but somewhere nowhere near).
1 did you realise what the person in question had said.
2 did you know who he was
3 did you have the faintest idea what he was talking about

Which all leads back to the topic of....
if the reason is bollox and the expected outcome is bollox..... what was the reason again?:hmmm:

Sailor Steve 03-25-12 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860661)
... does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?
No, but direct insults to other members does.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860489)
Whatsamatter is your usual line of bunkervision bull run into a brick wall on this example.

MH 03-25-12 03:07 PM
Go have another beer lol...


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he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.:yeah:
Hows about a dozen examples of you somehow describing Isrealis as not understanding Israel and what it means to be in Israel?
Extreme revisionist zionists somehow becoming"liberals" perhaps
Maybe a dozen silly accusations of anti semitism, especialy good when you call Jewish people as somehow anti semites.
????????WOW....uh did i say that or Meir Dagan?

You are totally messed up man - but fun.

Jimbuna 03-25-12 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860661)
It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?
There have been a number of examples of name calling and exchanging of personal insults by more than one person on this thread already.

I have to draw the line in view of bad post reports and would appreciate it if people could disagree in a manner that doesn't contravene the forum rules.

If you feel you are being attacked simply ignore the poster and don't respond...better to report a post than to escalate the issue.

I thank all contributors in advance for their cooperation.

Tribesman 03-25-12 03:46 PM
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????????WOW....uh did i say that or Meir Dagan?
As said, there are dozens of example of you doing it.

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If you feel you are being attacked simply ignore the poster and don't respond
Hey all I wanted was a comment on MHs' view of what the Mossad fella said about Bibis war drum rants?
After all a local view can sometimes be enlightening but MH seems rather averse to commenting on the "stupidest idea I have ever heard" angle of the topic:03:

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No, but direct insults to other members does.
But isn't what you quoted just calling out the bunkervision. After all it is realy no differnet from the everyday zombies over here still with their narrow fixed view even after 90 years.

MH 03-25-12 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1860700)

But isn't what you quoted just calling out the bunkervision. After all it is realy no differnet from the everyday zombies over here still with their narrow fixed view even after 90 years.
I sometimes wonder weather you are 9 or 90 years old...:haha:


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stupidest idea I have ever heard
Well... he said much more than that.

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As said, there are dozens of example of you doing it
Yeah sure....maybe its one of your imaginary friend on some other forum....or simply your skill i reading between the lines.:D
I really can't see a good reason why you bring this up in this thread...did i call anyone anti semite or nazi or something

Tribesman 03-25-12 06:48 PM
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Well... he said much more than that.
indeed he did, he also said it wouldn't work.:yeah:

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I really can't see a good reason why you bring this up in this thread...
It is to illustrate a pattern in your responses, much like some here get a red white and blue mist obscuring their vision and rationality when it is their nations policies involved.
That is why I always like to use Israeli sources when I know you you are going to try and take issue with the subject instead of actually addressing it:smug:

soopaman2 03-25-12 07:13 PM
What is the reason for a war against Iran?

Requires only one word...

Israel. :yep::Kaleun_Wink:


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