Lucky you. I pay €1.60 a litre, which is $8.86 a gallon.
Nothing too special around here.

On the subject of "im butthurt more then you, so STFU with your gas prices", I still think higher gas prices in Europe mean didley squat , because i really don't think you folks are required to drive near the distances that we do.

When your required to drive 300 to 450 miles in a five day week because the only affordable place to live is 30 to 45 miles from work, THEN you might have something to argue with.

It may not be as common as in the US, but there are huge loads of people here as well who drive similar distances.

And public transportation isn't really a good option here either. A one-way ticket from Eindhoven to Arnhem without discount costs €14.40, even more than I pay for petrol for the same distance in my Mitsubishi Colt, and taking over two times as much time.

Most everybody here drives the distances i described. Not huge loads of people, but the vast majority of people. If California was going to be given a subtitle, "Land of the Car" would be appropriate.

There is no public transportation to speak of. What little there is, is ridiuclous. Either they don't route the way you go, or their route is insanely stupid. A 15 minute drive would take you over two hours on a bus, assuming it runs in your area at all.

The logical thing to do then, would be to move closer to work, wouldn't it? The trouble with that, is pricing. Apartments and housing near where the jobs are is so high, only management could afford to live there. That forces you to reside in affordable areas, but with that comes the commute, and with the commute, comes the gas, which you must have. The entire situation is completely dependent upon affordable transportation to work.

If the cost of commute + affordable housing is equal or greater then living in the high cost areas that are closer to work, but you cant afford to begin with, your kinda hosed.

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I'm paying 1300 a month for affordable housing that will allow dogs, and that is a one bedroom apartment. Closer to work, its probably 1800 dollars.

So then the problem is housing prices and/or pay, not petrol.

EVERYTHING is high here. Including gas. Few places in the US can top california in that department. If you look at the big picture in terms of personal finances, why do you think it's nickname is "cant afford ya". :haha:

Actually what Duci said effects many. All across NC people moved to the outer dying mill towns for cheaper housing when the market fell. Gas was still affordable. It was much cheaper to live, even if you had to drive a few hours to work. Now people can't afford the gas or the cost of living. Course gas drives all those cost up.

Stange, oil prices down, but gas goes up. Gas use is down, but prices go up. Over $4 a gallon yesterday here.

My wife and I shop at Weis Grocery. When we use the discount card for sales and stuff we get gas points. Yesterday we redeemed our gas points. We got 18 gallons of gas ($66.00) for .02 cents. We did not know we had saved that many gas points. I go fill my car tonight! :D

Hey Chris, I could do with a card like that....can you buy beer with it because that often gives me gas? :DL

That's a lot of damn food. We use one here and finally got 30 bucks with of gas, but now shop at a grocery out where you have to bring your own bags and bag yourself out, much cheaper.

Perhaps we should have a thread on food prices too? :DL

We spend $170.00 a week at Weis. I believe it was .20 cent off a gallon of gas for every hundred spent in groceries. We did not look at for weeks on end. This week the cashier at Weis said to redeem those point as the 30th they are no good. We showed 420 points which equates to $4.20 off a gallon of gas. Basically FREE! :D

Duc, what is your timeline for leaving Kali-fornia to UT? Are you still moving there?

I'll just add, Duci is correct, the cost of living is outrageous in Kali- fornia, for various reasons, stupid laws, high taxes. So I would say some of it is self-inflicted (you vote for stupid people (see Nancy pelosi:dead:), you get what you vote for:dead:).

What is the sales tax there?
The special gas requirements (mixtures)?

The sad thing is, whatever kali-fornia does, ore-gone will follow suit shortly.