That aircraft is much, much, much closer than the trail.

I believe that's one of the many news choppers of LA, quite possibly the CBS one. I'm not sure though.

You sound as if you are very certain. How did you judge that? The video linked on page one stops short before the aircraft starts transiting in front of (or behind!)the smoke trail, and the video resolution is not that good to do a visual judgement of the parallax movement, and I see no other visual clues in the picture or video that allow to conclude the relative distance between the smoke trail and the aircraft. I would not even dare to definitely calculate the absolute size and dimensioin of that smoke trail. It is extremely difficult to estimate the size of a visual object like clouds or smoke fields if there is no additional information on their size, position or speed.

It was a North Korean provocation. :O:

IMHO, the trail just looks like it's far. Can't really point a finger to it exactly, but it just looks to me like it's much farther away than the plane. :hmmm:

EDIT: Well, the plane looks a tad blurry, kinda out of focus. Or overly zoomed.

The plane you see in the picture has nothing to do with the vapor trail it is actually going perpindicular to the trail.

Watch the video you will see it fly past the vapor trail. You will also see a point of light at the end of the vapor trail at some points of the video. Landing lights? Uhhh its going 'away' from the view :doh: The plane is 'fuzzy' as it is out of the focal plane for that camera.

As usual our goverment figures were a bunch of ill informed idiots and pass this off as a weather ballon or some such. I reallty grow tired of it. I'm assuming its one of those 'we could tell you but then we would have to kill you' sort of things.

By the way I'm guessing this thing landed in the middle of the pacific somewhere as there is not mention of where it came down.

I was reading about this in another forum and someone made the best guess that I have seen so far...

"A third world country announcing they now have submarine launch capability".

Frankly thats the only thing that makes sense to me.

Not, not in the video I get here via that link in the first post - the plane moves towards the trail, the feed ends just before the planes starts to "touch" the trail - then they change cameras. There is no pictures showing it is passing in front of or behind the trail. That's why I am irritated. The plane DOES NOT pass the trail.

I read some UFO books many years ago, and was amused by how easily many people take things for granted just because they either appeared to be "reasonable" to assume, or because they supported their intention to "believe" in UFOs. That'S why I am hacking on these details so impertinently. Probably it has been like everybody is saying - but I want no hear-say or wild guessing, but evidence for that, please. :03: :O: :DL And the video in that link does not show what is claimed that it shows, but gets cut just before. The video also does not seem to show any visual reference that allows to judge the size and dimension of that trail.

North Korea got their hands of a old Golf, but not much has been seen of her in along time. Unlike some of our other enemies the DPRK doesn't announce the launching of new sub classes on Youtube... :hmmm:

Smoky SAM anyone? :03:

http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-...ays-flight-808

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/351/uwwau.gif

Yea boy .. wow what are the odds.. :haha:

What a bunch of bs.

I too thought of contrails first when seeing the video and pictures first, imagining it to be a strange kind of SAM came just later. It does not help in judging the thing that apparently most pics they released are massively zoomed in.

Unless they had a 'steady cam' or stabilized image cam they could not be that zoomed in. Even just the vibration of the chopper would blur it.

Also yes that aircraft (appears to be a 172 or some such) is 'much closer' just watch the video you should be able to realize this.

It's the Aurora.:O:

Yes it does, but it is a different coloured exhaust not a true contrail.