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Originally Posted by Stiebler
(Post 1443879)
JScones said (speaking of SH3):
Good point (as usual by JS).
SH3 seems to have generated an enthusiasm that has somehow been lacking with SH4 and SH5, which both lagged behind SH3 for rate of development of mods. I recollect that, in the early months of SH4, complaints about lack of mods for it were always met with statements to the effect that 'it has not been in development for as long as SH3; wait until it has'. It never did catch up, having lower sales and (presumably) therefore a smaller pool of potential modders.
Mods should really be developed to accommodate different playing tastes. To take an obvious example, the original devs will have set a certain standard of playing difficulty. Some will prefer the game easier, so mods should be developed for them. Some will prefer the game harder, so they will need different mods. Again, some will prefer more eye-candy, others will prefer more realism. Mods will be developed for both groups. Other talented modders have created extra ships for SH3 and SH4.
Mods should *not* be created to correct defects in the original code or to paper over cracks in the original game design. I have the impression, reading the threads on this forum, that this is nevertheless the objective of most of the mods being created for SH5. This is a difficult objective anyway, but must also discourage casual modders. There is no point in changing the colo(u)r of a U-boat propellers (to take a trivial example) if no one wants to use the supplied GUI. The GUI has to be sorted out first.
I believe that modding for SH5 is never likely to be popular, until there is more enthusiasm for the un-modded product. (In practical terms, that means further patches needed, and DRM to be removed.)
[I haven't voted in the poll.]
Stiebler.
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I agree with both Stiebler and JScones but i would like to add here that ,for me , the problem is not drm or some bugs (not the major ones)
they(devs) made a good start with sh3 (although they vanished some simulator elements from previous versions) and the next step would (or must) have been a sequel with all previous simulation elements getting back and of course to start ADDING something to this direction .didn't happened....and now,with sh5 , they just 'killed' almost all (the few) remained simulation elements (thanks to TDW ,trying really hard to bring them back) .of course ,they DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING TO SIMULATOR AGAIN (only vanished...again) !this is the big fail of sh5 and not the drm things or its bugs...
even if the game some day becomes totally free of bugs, it will never be something new becuase it doesn't have at its core anything new ! the best you could see from sh5 at future(if we assume that ubi will keep not allowing modders to hack executables), it will be to reach the level of sh3-sh4 (simulator level) with some better graphics and that is all....which,imo, allready started to get bored.
it is really annoying me the fact that ubisoft is asking from community to start BEGING (YES,..BEGING) for a patch or for a tool .
if there were laws to protect us(gamers) from sinister companies ,,,now you would see this rediculous ubisoft beging YOU not to sue them ! BUT ,they are so cheeky that they are asking you to co-operate with them in order to decide (unbelievable !!) if (yes...IF...) they will fix some issues !( ...!!! really,...why 'some' AND why not 'ALL' ?? )
do you believe that devs DON'T KNOW ALL THE ISSUES ??? if you were ever involved with modding you should know that the author ALWAYS 'knows' his 'baby' better than anyone else.
PS: to sorlim : a community developer with LIMITED access to internet ? (...!!)
well sorlim,that was good ! at least,you have....humor !