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STEED 03-28-07 02:42 PM

Iran is shacking in there boots,not.

Enigma 03-28-07 02:48 PM

Thats exactly Iran's problem. They are NOT shaking in those boots. They have become way to big for said boots. And they could get a healthy number of their population killed for it.

The Avon Lady 03-28-07 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Thats exactly Iran's problem. They are NOT shaking in those boots.

Why should they?

Recommended model: Pavolov's dog. :yep:

03-28-07 04:00 PM

Does this sound like propoganda?
From the female British hostage.

Dear Mum & Dad,
I am writing to you from Iran where I am being held. I will try to explain to you the best what has happened. We were out in the boats when we were arrested by Iranian forces as we had apparently gone into Iranian waters. I wish we hadn't because then I'd be home with you all right now. I am so sorry we did, because I know we wouldn't be here now if we hadn't. I want you all to know that I am well and safe. I am being well looked after. I am fed three meals a day and have a constant supply of fluids.
The people are friendly and hospitable, very compassionate and warm. I have written a letter to the Iranian people to apologize for us entering into their waters. Please don't worry about me, I am staying strong. Hopefully it won't be long until I am home to get ready for Molly's birthday party with a present from the Iranian people.
Look after everyone for me, especially Adam and Molly.
I love you all more than you will ever know.
All my love, Faye

Tchocky 03-28-07 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
Does this sound like propoganda?
From the female British hostage.

Dear Mum & Dad,
I am writing to you from Iran where I am being held. I will try to explain to you the best what has happened. We were out in the boats when we were arrested by Iranian forces as we had apparently gone into Iranian waters. I wish we hadn't because then I'd be home with you all right now. I am so sorry we did, because I know we wouldn't be here now if we hadn't. I want you all to know that I am well and safe. I am being well looked after. I am fed three meals a day and have a constant supply of fluids.
The people are friendly and hospitable, very compassionate and warm. I have written a letter to the Iranian people to apologize for us entering into their waters. Please don't worry about me, I am staying strong. Hopefully it won't be long until I am home to get ready for Molly's birthday party with a present from the Iranian people.
Look after everyone for me, especially Adam and Molly.
I love you all more than you will ever know.
All my love, Faye

Eugh, I really don't like it that that's been made public. Source?

Oberon 03-28-07 04:06 PM

Providing it IS actually from her, it's not exactly difficult to get details about her, it's been plastered all over the BBC and ITN News reports. :damn:

Skybird 03-28-07 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Eugh, I really don't like it that that's been made public. Source?

It was, for example, to be seen on CNN. In kind of an endless-loop.

The Avon Lady 03-28-07 04:23 PM

Interesting read from someone who's been there: Iran's Terror Navy.

03-28-07 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon
Providing it IS actually from her, it's not exactly difficult to get details about her, it's been plastered all over the BBC and ITN News reports. :damn:

The reason I asked is there are some issues that she raises in this letter which don't ring true.

'We were out in the boats when we were arrested'
Does she really think that she was arrested?

'I wish we hadn't because then I'd be home with you all right now
Was HMS Cornwall scheduled to be back to Britain now? 28 MAR 07

we had apparently gone into Iranian waters'
Using GPS would they had strayed into Iranian waters given the ROE?

'Hopefully it won't be long until I am home to get ready for Molly's birthday party with a present from the Iranian people'.
This one is way over the top.

Enigma 03-28-07 05:19 PM

Yeah, I believe the industry/proffesional term for this letter is "complete crock of ****".

Skybird 03-28-07 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Interesting read from someone who's been there: Iran's Terror Navy.

Special attention to this...:

"Iran is likely to respond to any attack on its nuclear facilities, or any attempt to free the 15 British hostages, with strikes on the ABOT as well as proxy attacks inside Iraq. Lebanon might flare up again with Iranian support. I’m sure our planners are factoring that into their thinking, but it’s probably a good idea if the rest of us do too."

... and this:

"But with all of the danger to coalition forces in the area that the Lt describes, why are the UK’s rules of engagement there so weak"


And in the linked text, this:


"Even though faced with Iranian Revolutionary Guards, every one of the Party knew that to fire a weapon (even a warning shot) would have ensured their personal Court Martial."

Nice find, AL.

03-28-07 07:03 PM

I think I mentioned, HMS Cornwall should have steamed at full speed in the direction of the Iranians. Based on the arctical that would not have violated the ROE. It certainly would have put the Iranians on a let's get out of here position.

Tchocky 03-28-07 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
I think I mentioned, HMS Cornwall should have steamed at full speed in the direction of the Iranians. Based on the arctical that would not have violated the ROE. It certainly would have put the Iranians on a let's get out of here position.

Cornwall was too far away, and the water in which the boarding ocurred was too shallow for the ship to safely steam in.
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Enigma 03-28-07 07:11 PM

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I think I mentioned, HMS Cornwall should have steamed at full speed in the direction of the Iranians. Based on the arctical that would not have violated the ROE. It certainly would have put the Iranians on a let's get out of here position
Indeed. But ya know, it sounds like the were heavily outgunned...I can only assume they wanted to avoid provocation....

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Cornwall was too far away, and the water in which the boarding ocurred was too shallow for the ship to safely steam in.
Ahh, yes...that too.

03-28-07 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Quote:

I think I mentioned, HMS Cornwall should have steamed at full speed in the direction of the Iranians. Based on the arctical that would not have violated the ROE. It certainly would have put the Iranians on a let's get out of here position
Indeed. But ya know, it sounds like the were heavily outgunned...I can only assume they wanted to avoid provocation....

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Cornwall was too far away, and the water in which the boarding ocurred was too shallow for the ship to safely steam in.
Ahh, yes...that too.

Was Cornwall out gunned or the boarding party? If it was Cornwall, I have to ask why were they there.
If the water was too shallow that brings another question as to where was the air cover?

Is this just a matter of old thinking in a new reality? I cannot believe that commanders in the area, with all their schooling, would allow this to happen without being complicet. The same thing happened in 2004, did it not?

Is this a ploy to let Iran show its hand and bring itself closer to the brink?


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