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Hold on a sec but wasn't there supposed to be a "Special place in hell" for us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ56juMtrsY

Interesting article by Douglas Fraser Business/economy editor for BBC Scotland:

Brexit: The reality dawns

Quote:

While attention has been on infection control and the Channel, it's Northern Ireland which is perhaps the most astonishing and far-reaching aspect of Brexit. So far. Its treatment suggests that it is now English nationalism that will determine whether the UK remains united.
Scottish fish exports have become the first to run into problems with paperwork required before trucks leave the country, as well as when they reach France. They're being joined by others.
The first eight days have had some allowance for change, but the "period of grace" is ending, and from hauliers to ferry firms and British suppliers of imported goods to the EU, firms are finding the new trading reality is complex and costly.

True his jibe about Brexiteers being English nationalists is rather uncalled for but it does highlight something the "Celtic Periphery" and Unionists in Scotland and Northern Ireland have always thought about English Conservatives:

They're too English and not British enough. Therefore they're not to be trusted to do the right thing for whole of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Mike.:hmmm:

It would be nice to have kind of independent cross-verification for all those videos' claims. The video releaser is suspicious to me cause I cannot find confirmation for all the sensations he is reporting, and I wonder what he ahs to hide when telling all this with a robot-computer-generated voice. And the mainstream media over here narrate a very different version of things. I doubt however that they have an exclusive deal with the truth either.

Britain are divorced from EU. It was a though divorce and nevertheless each of these two can't live without each other.

Markus

^ Yes the fat cats won. However now they really must be afraid of Scotland or Ireland breaking away.
On the other hand this kind of diversive propaganda is probably targeted to alienate all sides more, and finally indeed lead to the intended downfall, once more.

That Madrid would object to Scotland joining the EU makes sense, however (Catalonia). Who knows, Paris maybe as well (the Basques).

But that is the Scots (and Xcatlonians and Basques business), and theirs exlcusively. I only insist that they are not allowed into the EU if they are not net payers, but just more hungry mouths that want to get fed.

I also do not think that a community of dwarves makes the whole stronger. The more weka member sthere are,m the weaker the whole community is. And the last thing the EU needs now is ANY more new members.

This tells the story differfently than those videos, Jim. I do not say it is more true or wrong, I simply do not know anymore. I just give it as a different perspective on things. Its the perspective that is dominant here "in the EU".

https://translate.google.com/transla..._12841002.html

I wonder why some Brits are still so obsessed with what is happening on the other side of the channel. Maybe they can't switch from hostility to cooperation mode. Maybe badmouthing the EU is just a bad habit and they are not grown up enough to get rid of it. Whatever it is, it is not helpful and it will cost them dearly.