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Jimbuna 11-26-20 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2709314)
^ nice propaganda pieces, but why does he try to demonise Macron, when he says he will be doing a "frexit" soon anyway :haha:

I think they're trying to up the effect by being as assertive as possible.

Load of crap most of it/them.

Jimbuna 11-26-20 06:06 AM

Now these (Express) I take much more seriously.

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Macron to spark new fishing war WITHIN EU as he makes grab for Brussels' €5bn Brexit fund
FRANCE has launched a cash grab for much of the EU's €5 billion emergency Brexit fund to bailout its fishermen.
Emanuel Macron wants to secure the lion’s share of the so-called “adjustment fund” to prop up France’s northern coastal communities set to lose out on access to Britain’s fishing grounds. The French President’s hardline approach to secure almost the same opportunities in the UK for EU vessels has taken negotiations over the Brexit trade deal to the brink of collapse. Having already frustrated European colleagues with this stance, Mr Macron now risks infuriating them by pushing to seize control of the Brexit fund.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...st-trade-talks

Jimbuna 11-26-20 06:08 AM

Not so much these though (The Sun)

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THE EU has threatened to PULL OUT of post-Brexit trade talks while Dublin says it is "imperative" for everyone involved that a deal is agreed.

Talks remain stalled over the thorny issues of fishing and state aid as the clock ticks down to the end of the transition period on December 31.

EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen says the bloc is prepared for the UK to leave without a trade deal.

“With very little time ahead of us, we will do all in our power to reach an agreement. We are ready to be creative.

“But we are not ready to put into question the integrity of our single market,” she said. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/132712...ne-uk-eu-live/

Jimbuna 11-26-20 06:44 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S85-x6TJVms

Then the band played "Believe it if you like"

Jimbuna 11-26-20 01:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67k93r44w4

Rockstar 11-26-20 03:14 PM

Alexander SmithSeptember 17, 2020

LONDON — The British government has for years hoped that President Donald Trump would give them the post-Brexit trade deal they crave.


But Democratic candidate Joe Biden made it clear Wednesday that he will not support any trade deal with London if it endangered peace in Northern Ireland — an issue that has dominated the United Kingdom's messy, protracted departure from the European Union.


"We can't allow the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to Northern Ireland to become a casualty of Brexit," Biden said in a tweet.


https://news.yahoo.com/biden-warns-u...133909721.html

Jimbuna 11-27-20 06:10 AM

Face-to-face Brexit trade talks will resume in London this weekend, the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier has said.

In-person negotiations were suspended when Mr Barnier had to self-isolate after a colleague tested positive for Covid last week.

The Frenchman said the "same significant divergences persist" in negotiations.

Boris Johnson insisted the likelihood of a deal depended on the EU.

Speaking on Friday ahead of talks resuming, the prime minister told reporters that "there's a deal there to be done if they want to do it".

But he added "substantial and important differences" remained between the two sides, with just over a month left to finalise an agreement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55090861

Jimbuna 11-27-20 06:18 AM

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Nicola Sturgeon has said a second independence referendum should be held "in the earlier part" of the next Scottish Parliament term.

The SNP leader, who is also Scotland's first minister, said her focus was currently on guiding the country through the pandemic.

But she insisted that the UK government's current opposition to indyref2 was unsustainable.

She would not be drawn on what she might do if it consent was refused.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-55094835
I'd be really interested to know what she will do because the previous referendum in September 2014 was supposed to be a once in a generation event.

The difference today being that recent polls suggest a vote for independence would succeed.

So Nichola, do we keep having referendums until you get the result you want?

I've personally got no problem with Scottish independence but let us agree the terms first, two of which should be the Pound Sterling can't be used because it is underwritten by the Bank of England and you take your fair share of the national debt with you.

Just saying.

Skybird 11-27-20 06:56 AM

I am not against scottish independence either as long as they do not expect European nations to pay their bills.

And I certainly do nto want just anothe rhungry mouth at the eU's table that expected to get fed more than it gives back. EU memberhsio is only imaginbable if Scottland would be a net contrbutor, not a net taker. Well - is it? :03:

Lets face it, that is what it is about. Money. Scottland wouldnt be a gain for the EU, but a burden.

I therefore ask London to refuse any such referendum. Pay your British pounds for Scotland yourself, we prefer to waste our Euros for other things. :haha: And as long as they need others to pay their bills, it wouldn't be true independence anyway.

Jimbuna 11-27-20 07:12 AM

Tax revenue generated in Scotland amounts to about £66 billion, including North Sea oil revenue, but it benefits from about £81 billion in public spending. That means Scotland benefits from £15 billion more than it puts in. This is possible because the UK pools and shares resources across the entire country.

https://www.deliveringforscotland.go...blic-spending/

Jimbuna 11-27-20 07:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbu5pReJmms

Jimbuna 11-27-20 11:00 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4N-O8D6B_w

Jimbuna 11-27-20 02:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLV7SbhtiA

Skybird 11-27-20 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2709725)

Oooops, somebody just got torpedoed, hit, and sunkthere!

Catfish 11-27-20 03:49 PM

Nice rhetorics, but if there is anything that can bring Sotland to vote for independence, it is Mogg :03:


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