Respectfully, I believe you're being disingenuous. Well publicized what this regime is doing, even bordering on the burden of proof fallacy.


There are countless objectively provable cases of due process violations such as Kilmar Abrego Garcia and others who were deported without due process. This includes minor children recently, including one with cancer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g8yj2n33yo


As far atrocities:
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Marie Ange Blaise, a Haitian woman died after two months in ICE custody in Pompano Beach, FL. There were reports of other deaths.

https://www.aclufl.org/en/press-rele...t-deaths-occur


The conditions is which these people are being transported and held are inhumane. There are reports of overcrowding, lack of access to water, toiletries, etc.


Sending people to that hellhole in El Salvador qualifies as an atrocity as well.

Now, what seem to be an emerging pattern of deaths in these facilities.

That's an odd argument, most of all because this was neither the only nor the most important reason for the rise of facism.


Additionally:
- the veterans of WWI in Weimar Germany weren't a homogenous group (let alone united). Politically they were spread out across the entire spectrum. Monarchists, democrats, socialists, religious centrists, marxists, conservatives and followers of several right-wing wannabe-dictators, just to name a few.

- they weren't governed by Jews (it took years of propaganda to burn that lie into people's minds).
- the veterans were mad about other things, most importantly about having been close WWI-victory before they were stabbed in the back; about being undefeated in the field. Another lie, festered into fact by a lack of knowledge combined with the lie being told often enough.


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On another note: the elimination of the minimus rule (which allowed products with a total value of less than $800 to avoid tariffs) is actually the first idea that really has the potential to achieve what some people here want: getting rid of the cheap, crappy, possibly even dangerous products that flow into the country. Especially online sellers like Shein and Temu thrived thanks to this rule.
However, this will also require much more scrunity when checking the parcels, and much more personell at US Customs to do that job. Over here the limit for applying the minimis rule is set at €150, but still the amount of parcels is so overwhelmingly huge that most parcels simply pass customs unchecked.

1.) Actually, Fascism is not exclusive to Germany, Hitler in 1930's and 40's. That was National Socialism (no, they were not socialists, it was essentially a marketing ploy to get working class votes of the time. Just in case try to pull the Nazis were socialists nonsense a lot of Trumpers do, I will elaborate if need be.) In layman's terms, not all fascists were/are nazis, but all nazis were fascists.

Hitler and Nazis were much campaigned on "Making Germany Great Again" in 1920's and appealed to working class , conservative germans of the time. I believe the rhetoric of the day was "Restoring Germany to its rightful place" or some nonsense like that.

Hitler, a fascist demagogue captured the support of working class Germans by exploited their anger over the economy and national decline, scapegoating jews. Trump and MAGA has done the same thing, scapegoating immigrants and "cultural marxists" (such nonsense) and basically anyone who isn't white or "christian" to gain their support. Trump appears to hate who a lot of the white, working class, lower to mid income people (especially mid aged to older white males) hate as well, blame for America's problems.


I actually voted for Trump in 2016, held my nose a bit but thought he was the enema the system needed. Aside from his obvious ties to Putin and Russia that came out, he revealed himself to be a corrupt, authoritarian rube, with fascist tendencies. I attended two rallies during that campaign, where he said he would not engage in the failed "trickle down" economics, but what was his only major policy "accomplishment" , idiotic tax cuts that benefitted wealthy and corporations, more trickle down, more deregulation. Then came George Floyd protests, COVID, his idiocy there, and then his lies about 2020 election and January 6th, revealing himself to be a fascist in the interim. I held off using the "F" word for a long time, but the objective evidence is overwhelming.

2.) Trump, his regime, MAGA, and GOP meet the objective criteria for neo-fascism in rhetoric, policies, actions. What is neo-fascism?

Neo-fascism is a post-World War II far-right ideology which includes significant elements of fascism; ultranationalism, ultraconservatism, corporatism, racial supremacy, right-wing populism, authoritarianism, nativism, xenophobia, and anti-immigration sentiment, as well as opposition to social democracy, parliamentarianism, socialism, liberalism, neoliberalism, and liberal democracy. Economic policies which are protectionism and autarky, hostility to free trade, engaging in trade wars.
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Also...

Aligning with neo-fascist regimes such as Putin, Orban while alienating our allies, another clear sign.


Repeatedly using fascist rhetoric referring to political opponents as "Vermin" , stating undocumented immigrants were "poisoning the blood of the nation", and referred to America as "the Reich." Hostility and attacks via rhetoric and now actions on the free press/media as well as education, colleges, universities intellectuals, educated is another sign of fascism. The list really does go on and on.


Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?,
" Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the
fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14
elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.


The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are
flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases
because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of
prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious
minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic
agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more
rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or
sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security

Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and
terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies
or actions.


9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually
beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely
suppressed .

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other
academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even
forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use
governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and
even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even
assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media.
Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Trump meets everyone of these 14 characteristics in some objective manner.

https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amaz...m/PC-00466.pdf

Well, let's go through this then.

With regards to Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. He was given Due process, repeatedly. He snuck back in repeatedly after being deported. Garcia never showed up for his Asylum hearings. He is a wife beater, Gangbanger and was involved in transporting other Illegals. Garcia has said if he returns to El Salvador, he will be killed by rival gangs. That says it all right there. His request for asylum is disingenuous and the material facts of his Asylum Application are and remain false.

As far as El Salvador, Garcia was shipped back to his Country of Origin. If his Country is in disarray, that isn't the problem of the U.S and It's Citizens and to be frank, we don't care. El Salvador has control over their own citizen. What El Salvador does is their business in their own Country.

By the way, did Laken Riley, Lizbeth Medina, Jocelyn Nungaray and Rachel Morin Have Due Process when they were raped and murdered by these pieces of garbage ? You may have felt differently if they were your Sisters, Mother, Wife or Girlfriend. We don't want them here, plain and simple.

Entering the U.S Illegally is a crime. Plain and simple.

You mention the crimes of the Trump Administration but you aren't providing specifics. As far as deporting Children, they came with their parents who are Illegals and we kept them together and deported them together. If you make things easy for Migrants, they will keep coming. We aren't interested in making them comfortable on the U.S taxpayers dime. In short, we in the U.S aren't responsible for them, financially or otherwise.

You seem to feel that the U.S Citizens and taxpayers should have to take care of these Migrants whether we like it or not. The vast majority of U.S Citizens feel differently and voted as such. Trump was elected President of the U.S precisely to stop that. You and the Democrats are in the Minority. If the Democrats continue with their stupidity in pursuing an agenda that's contrary to the Voting American Electorate, they will be voted out of Office. The Midterm Elections are little more than 18 months from now.

With regards to Due Process, the Migrants Illegally crossed into the U.S without wanting Due Process. But now, You are discussing Due process for the migrants on the way out. The Illegal Migrants number between 10-20 Million. This is nothing more than a stall tactic and smoke screen by the Democrats as it would take decades to do the checks. The President has the authority and backing of the American Electorate to remove the Migrants. And, removed they shall be.

1. I have a solution though. Deport ALL of the Illegals to their Countries of Origin

2. Once back home, they can apply like everyone else for Asylum in the U.S and be properly vetted. Gangbangers, criminals and pieces of garbage need not apply.

3. The Asylum seekers can be given a date to make their case for Asylum, on their dime, not the American taxpayer.

4. If their Asylum is approved, learn the English Language, Laws and Customs here and follow them. Do not bring any religious ties or affiliations that run contrary to the well being of the U.S. If their Asylum claims are not approved, they must leave immediately.

With regards to deaths in custody, do you know for a fact these Individuals didn't have underlying medical conditions which contributed to their demise ? Were there other factors beyond the control of the U.S ?

If the Migrants don't like the conditions or treatment they are receiving in the U.S, the solution is simple. Just don't come here.

Forgot to address this.

Taking "our" country back from whom exactly? lol

Woman? Minorities? Liberals? LOL sorry have to laugh at that ridiculous notion when I hear Reich wingers says it. I try not to judge, but wow, just wow. Germans were saying the same thing in 1920's and 1930's, blaming "jews" and other "undesirables" for Germany's "betrayal" and not focusing on the real issues, the real causes.

After nearly half a century of trickle down economics and mass deregulation, which was never fully reversed due to politics, we are living the long term, residual economic effects, which has pushed us into a Second Gilded Age. Trump is a proponent of anti-worker, anti-consumer, pro-corporate, pro-oligarch laws, policies, system.

There is not one thing that is going to help you "take your country" back lmao. Sorry, can't stop laughing at the nonsense.


I am going to suggest three things to tend open eyes, it's helped me get some people to understand, to have the lightbulb go off.


1. Please read;

https://www.amazon.com/They-Thought-.../dp/0226511928

First published in 1955, They Thought They Were Free is an eloquent and provocative examination of the development of fascism in Germany. Mayer’s book is a study of ten Germans and their lives from 1933-45, based on interviews he conducted after the war when he lived in Germany. Mayer had a position as a research professor at the University of Frankfurt and lived in a nearby small Hessian town which he disguised with the name “Kronenberg.” “These ten men were not men of distinction,” Mayer noted, but they had been members of the Nazi Party; Mayer wanted to discover what had made them Nazis.

“What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.”--from Chapter 13, “But Then It Was Too Late”


2. Read "Requiem for the American Dream: The 10 Principles of Concentration of Wealth & Power." by Noam Chomsky

I suggest both book and the documentary narrated by Chomsky himself, but the documentary is excellent. Link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZnuc-Fv_Tc


3."The Brainwashing of my Dad"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS52QdHNTh8

But you do in the previous sentence. :doh:

It's amazing how obtuse Democrats can be. Maybe that's one reason their party is polling so far down in the dumps.

The democratic stalwart crew of getting the party back on track is AOC and Bernie Sanders. Socialists at their finest.

Look at it this way, the worst thing you can do is to tell your enemies or opponents they are making mistakes. I hope AOC and or Bernie do run. AOC is the very face of the Migrant Crisis we have now.

Remember when the little commies were gleefully prognosticating the imminent demise of the GoP? :) Now the Democrats, the "Party of the Future" is about as popular as a colonoscopy without anesthesia and if these two rubes are the face of the party going forward I see little chance they will ever improve.

The party is truly lost and having an identity crisis. Democratic Socialist Progressive party. But Bernie is sorry he owns 3 homes.

They are definitely in disarray.

https://i.postimg.cc/MpYRyBv6/IMG-4785.jpg

Strike two.

Lol I said I TRY not to, but it is difficult not to judge such people.

Actually not a Democrat. I am an independent and on the objective spectrum, are centrist, with "right" and "left" of center leanings. I have my issues with Dem party, but they can be worked with, especially with new generation of leadership about to take the reigns.

The GOP is beyond repair thought, it cannot be worked with, it's the party of neofascism, white supremacy, etc. and an existential threat to the country and world as large, especially with this regime. Using right wing populism of portion of petit bourgeois and working class people primarily (especially men) under the mindless banner of "Make American Great Again. going on this regime's "If it ain't white it ain't right" policies, it's a big dog whistle for Make America White Again. Mixed in with "christian" nationalism, New Apostolic Reformation i.e. religious fascism.


Lol you all keep parroting that poll on democrats as if it validates what the regime is doing, it does not. Reminds me of the objectively false claims of a "mandate". 1.6 percent and 86 electoral votes is by no realistic, objective measure a "mandate" lol. May want to see Trump Regime's objective numbers he's freaking out about.