Widdecombe, eh? I have seen some videos and her "speeches", seldom have i heard so much hate, anger, dishonesty and bile; maybe they should re-introduce the burning of witches just for her :O:

The UK government did not need the EU to screw this all up, the rules were clear since decades. Now someone has to be the scapegoat for the fail, and since Farage, Cummings and Johnson must be the good guys it is "all the EU's fault" once more.
Bullsh!t! If one of the participants does not want a deal (Johnson) it is impossible for the other 27 nations to force it , and in this case it is Cummings and Johnson who never wanted a deal, they just lied to gain time.
And as we see they were successful, this has developed into an excellent procrastination, in a way that all just want this idiocy to end, and do not care about consequences or blaming their own f'n government, meanwhile same on the EU side.

This fishing blunder is only the icing on the cake, while the english fishing industry being unable to catch so much fish it has sold or leased their rights to other nations, so those other nations are now "guilty". Nice try.

Aye, don't we just love politicians and their politics.

Poor Europe, such are the growing pains when transforming from nationalism into a more centralized form of totalitarianism, oops I meant to say Union :har:

@Jim: Thank you for your calm reaction :salute:
I know it's not "gold" on the EU side either.

edit: re Rockstar, to be true, i prefer the conditions here in the communist/socialist/bloody Europe before nationalist myths and Trump :D

well Catfish I hope it works out. Too be honest I think Europe would be better off working like its attempting to do now as a Union of 27 sovereign states. Rather than 27 individual nationalists trying to get there own way all the time.

"Eu panic" :haha: The UK wants 27 other nations on its knees, guess it won't happen. One country trying to screw it all up. I hope all learn the lesson :yep:

Edit: i propose to abandon the whole EU immediately, fall into recession and then depression, have some nice wars and then get together at the table to get on peacefully for the next 50 years, after which then nationalism will be finally strong again and break it all again. Until the end of times.

The UK and Canada have agreed a deal to continue trading under the same terms as the current EU agreement after the Brexit transition period ends.

The government said it paved the way for negotiations to begin next year on a new comprehensive deal with Canada.

The PM and Canadian PM Justin Trudeau made the "agreement in principle" in a video call, the Department for International Trade said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55031443

Well I dont know about the U.K. wanting the other 27 on its knees. Our states battle against federal supremacy once in a while too. They can get just as uppity as the U.K. protecting their rights when they perceive the Federal government has overstepped.


But most people dont know that. They simply think our Federal government is the only government and makes all the rules and we all trained to follow along with whatever they say. And for the most part we do but only when we are lawfully and constitutionally inclined to do so.



Europe has 27 state flags under one E.U. flag. We have state 50 flags under one U.S flag 'indivisible with liberty and justice for all' or so the pledge goes. :03:


Hey a little trivia. Did you know prior to WWII Americans used to raise their right arm up palm down when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance? :yep:

This is the UK Politics thread

Not a science thread, because I can tell you that my friends have shown several times, how they different in theory and practice.

A majority is against EU, nevertheless they put their vote on politicians or parties who only is critical against EU.
Every party in the Danish parliament isn't for a Danexit and therefore a referendum isn't on the table.

So I wonder which other country will follow UK and leave EU.

Markus

Oh no doubt we are not exactly alike but from my perspective I do see some similarities.


We know you want to be just like us. Inside every European is an American waiting to get out.:har:

@Mapuc ^ Why do you think any country will follow the UK?
I guess they aready saw what happens, and the next decades will not be "easy" (to say at least) economically, for the UK. Maybe the Uk even breaks up, because of brexit. Ireland, Scotland, Biden being president..

The nations i would indeed like to leave the EU are Poland, Romania and Hungary, since they do not respect human rights and are on the way to dictatorship or fascist states. We see what happens in Poland right now, if they do not respect some core values but are only there to steal money, out with them!
Of course this will not happen, they will not leave voluntarily as long as there's money in it, and the EU will not throw them out - i think. But maybe some thing will change soon, i sure hope so.

In Hungary wannabe-dictator Orban has got a lot of money from the EU to modernize his country environment-wise to replace all aged public lighting with LED lights.
Orban had made his son minister and gave him the money. Guess what - no modernisation, money ended up privately in Orban's family.
In the UK, the EU money has at least spent wisely and transparent, e.g. for the restoration of Manchester.

But Hungary?
https://de.reuters.com/article/us-hu...-idUSKCN1GR21D

In Poland, Kaczinsky and his PIS party are arresting women demonstrating for their freedom, it is like back to the middle ages!

Get. Them. OUT !

^
Almost on daily basis I read words like

Out Of EU among my Danish and Swedish friends.

The problem is they say one thing(theory)but act different when there's an election-here they put their vote(practice) a party who is for EU or critical at most.

Markus

Two ;as beens' poking their nose in where they wouldn't have appreciated during their terms in office.

The figures below are from 2015 but I don't understand why we continue to support the likes of India and Pakistan who are obviously wealthy enough to have a nuclear weapon capability.

https://i.postimg.cc/qqD3BFMr/57d95a...6c32bd156d.jpg

Soft Power = Money = Influence.

IMHO you need three things for international diplomacy:

1. Money

2. A nose peg

3. Gloves and/or hand sanitiser.

Military or "Hard Power" is optional but possibly counterproductive whilst economics and financial "Soft Power" arguably gets you further.

Mike.