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Skybird 11-09-20 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2705787)
I found this article awhile back when I was looking at the history of superpowers and the Thucydides Trap. You mention the UK as having serious issues with the EU. Looking at line 16 it apoears your not alone. Lets be realustic here the EU is Germany and Germany is the EU. Apparently there is economic friction between the three big gorillas on the block. Likely why Merkelreich says nothing and looks the otherway as their old friend and axis ally Turkey calls for violence in France and Ursula sings bomben auf england because Johnson misses a dealine.

Dont trust those Germans they tried once with arms. Today they are attempting to rule Europe by bullying their former victims economically.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...s-trap/406756/

if germany and tbe eu are the same, then why does the eu and the eurozone so much abuse and living at the costs of germany, with france bein in control of key fields of politics, pulling the germans over tbe table time and again.?


I really would wish germany would play its cards as strong as you imply - but it does not. At the Germans cost.

Jimbuna 11-09-20 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2705787)
I found this article awhile back when I was looking at the history of superpowers and the Thucydides Trap. You mention the UK as having serious issues with the EU. Looking at line 16 it apoears your not alone. Lets be realustic here the EU is Germany and Germany is the EU. Apparently there is economic friction between the three big gorillas on the block. Likely why Merkelreich says nothing and looks the otherway as their old friend and axis ally Turkey calls for violence in France and Ursula sings bomben auf england because Johnson misses a dealine.

Dont trust those Germans they tried once with arms. Today they are attempting to rule Europe by bullying their former victims economically.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...s-trap/406756/

With regard to your context I would simply say Germany is the heavyweight in the EU economically but very much the lightweight in military terms. France moved well ahead in that position, even more so when the UK left the EU.

Jimbuna 11-09-20 09:01 AM

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EU and UK officials have resumed trade talks in London at the start of another key week for the negotiations.

They are trying to bridge what the two sides have said are still significant differences on fishing quotas and competition issues.

Boris Johnson said on Sunday that the "outlines" of an agreement were clear and a deal was "there to be done".

But he has insisted the UK is prepared to leave the single market and customs union on 31 December without agreement.

The EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier and his UK counterpart Lord Frost are in a race against the clock to conclude a future economic partnership in time for it to come into force when the post-Brexit transition period ends on 31 December.

The UK left the EU on 31 January but continues to follow the bloc's rules until the end of the year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54862747
I sincerely hope both sides are being open and transparent with one another and not simply running the clock down.

Jimbuna 11-09-20 09:10 AM

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MGR1 11-09-20 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2705787)
I found this article awhile back when I was looking at the history of superpowers and the Thucydides Trap. You mention the UK as having serious issues with the EU. Looking at line 16 it apoears your not alone. Lets be realustic here the EU is Germany and Germany is the EU. Apparently there is economic friction between the three big gorillas on the block. Likely why Merkelreich says nothing and looks the otherway as their old friend and axis ally Turkey calls for violence in France and Ursula sings bomben auf england because Johnson misses a dealine.

Dont trust those Germans they tried once with arms. Today they are attempting to rule Europe by bullying their former victims economically.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...s-trap/406756/

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2705859)
With regard to your context I would simply say Germany is the heavyweight in the EU economically but very much the lightweight in military terms. France moved well ahead in that position, even more so when the UK left the EU.

I give you the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany.

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Germany undertook to reduce its armed forces to no more than 370,000 personnel, no more than 345,000 of whom were to be in the Army and the Air Force. These limits would commence at the time that the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe would enter into force, and the treaty also took note that it was expected that the other participants in the negotiations would "render their contribution to enhancing security and stability in Europe, including measures to limit personnel strengths". Germany also reaffirmed its renunciation of the manufacture, possession of, and control over nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, and in particular, that the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty would continue to apply in full to the unified Germany (the Federal Republic of Germany). No foreign armed forces, nuclear weapons, or the carriers for nuclear weapons would be stationed or deployed in six states (the area of Berlin and the former East Germany), making them a permanent Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone. The German Army could deploy conventional weapons systems with nonconventional capabilities, provided that they were equipped and designed for a purely conventional role. Germany also agreed to use military force only in accordance with the United Nations Charter.
Personally when it comes to military matters I prefer the current Germany with all it's faults rather than one still dedicated to "Blood and Iron".

Mike.

Rockstar 11-09-20 08:02 PM

Why is France contending with religious violence again after very public calls by Erdogan to boycott and incite violence. And Merkels was to quietly preach to Germans about the evils of hate speech? Either the German government is too stupid to recognise the problems or the German government is in on it.

Seems the U.K. got the hell out while the getton' was good.

Catfish 11-10-20 04:43 AM

The "EU" consists of 27 nations, each one with its own politics, interests and sympathies, or hate. Can you imagine 27 USAs to bring together and speak with one voice?
The right wing in Romania, Hungary and Poland is of course pro-Erdoghan, as probaly is the german AfD.

But Erdoghan will probably have not a good stand after Trump is gone, and with any successor of Merkel. Erdoghan is blackmailing all the time, if you do not !"§$.. we will open the borders and let the refugess flood in. Merkel is too lenient.
As i said before, if this goes on the EU can award itself the Chamberlain appeasement award.

Regarding the UK leaving we will see, some say that up to now it has been quite impressive, but no one here buys that after the last four-years' political grandstand show, economical development and Corona.

Jimbuna 11-10-20 09:17 AM

The government has suffered a heavy defeat in the House of Lords over its controversial Brexit legislation.

The Internal Market Bill contains measures that overrule parts of the UK's Brexit agreement with the EU.

Peers voted overwhelmingly to remove a section of the bill that would allow ministers to break international law - by 433 votes to 165.

The government said it would reinstate the clauses when the bill returns to the House of Commons next month.

It comes as trade talks continue between EU and UK officials in London as they try to reach an agreement over a future economic partnership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54882088

Jimbuna 11-11-20 09:27 AM

A Brexit deal is "unlikely this week" and trade talks are "likely to move into next week", according to Ireland's foreign minister.

Simon Coveney said he was hopeful he would be "proven wrong" but played down the prospects of a breakthrough in the next few days.

EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier is in London this week to continue negotiations on a future UK-EU relationship with his UK counterpart Lord Frost.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout

Catfish 11-11-20 05:13 PM

I fear it will offend you, but did anyone vote for Johnson? Except in his constituency?
Mrs von der Leyen was voted in by representatives of the 27 countries of the EU.
Johnson was not voted in but "elected" by paid-up members of his party.
(read this in the comments section)
But "Unelected EU bureaucrats?" :nope:

mapuc 11-11-20 05:30 PM

^ people in our countries like Germany, France, Denmark, Sweden and other members of EU can every 4 or 5th year say in an election who they want to be their Prime minister.

These Prime minister chose who shall be the leader of EU. This mean European voters has indirectly chosen this EU-leader.

Why not do as in USA, let the voters in the European country directly vote for who shall lead EU for a period of 4 or 5 years.

Shall we have same type of system - Winner takes all ?
Shall we have same type of electoral system where each country has a given number of electoral ?

And so on.

(Sorry I know this is the UK-Politics thread, but Catfish comment made me think of this)

Markus

Jimbuna 11-12-20 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2706439)
I fear it will offend you, but did anyone vote for Johnson? Except in his constituency?
Mrs von der Leyen was voted in by representatives of the 27 countries of the EU.
Johnson was not voted in but "elected" by paid-up members of his party.
(read this in the comments section)
But "Unelected EU bureaucrats?" :nope:

Certainly no offense taken but we are stuck with the system we have and it usually works pretty well. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong but only the parliament of Iceland is older in being as far as I'm aware and currently being too lazy to Google it :)

Jimbuna 11-12-20 07:23 AM

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One of Boris Johnson's closest aides, director of communications Lee Cain, has resigned amid reports of internal tensions in Downing Street.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54907188
Just a pity it isn't Cummings.

Jimbuna 11-12-20 01:18 PM

The "penny is dropping" in Brussels over the UK's post-Brexit status as an independent nation as the deadline for a trade deal nears, says Michael Gove.

The cabinet office minister told the BBC that British negotiators needed to see "movement on the EU side".

The two sides resumed talks in London this week, with a UK government source saying they were in the "final stage".

But gaps remain, such as on fishing rights, with the UK source saying the EU's position was "wholly unrealistic".

Negotiations are set to continue in Brussels next week.

Catfish 11-13-20 05:06 AM

So Cummings will leave?
 
So Cummings will leave?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN27T0P8


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