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Skybird 05-13-20 07:39 AM

^ Too bad he clipped his eartips, else he really would even look like a real prototpyic Vulcan. :D

Jimbuna 05-13-20 11:23 AM

I'm trying to figure out the link with a Vulcan but I'm just not seeing it :hmmm:

MGR1 05-13-20 11:39 AM

It's his surname: Sunak sounds very similar to Sarek, the father of Spock in Star Trek.

Mike.:03:

Jimbuna 05-13-20 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2670396)
It's his surname: Sunak sounds very similar to Sarek, the father of Spock in Star Trek.

Mike.:03:

Ah, right, cheers.

MGR1 05-13-20 05:25 PM

Considering the economic impact of Covid-19 on the UK economy as whole, I'd say that, coupled with Brexit, Scottish Independence is now highly unlikely.

The economic case was always a bit shaky, but if the UK deficit does indeed balloon to the figure of 300-500 billion pounds then the theoretical Scottish share of that becomes a truly prohibitive burden for a new state to shoulder, especially one with a shaky currency.

It might be irritating for people in England to put up with the SNP, but I don't think Scotland will be going anywhere anytime soon.:hmmm:

As I see it, the only way to kill the nationalists would be to abolish devolution and fully re-integrate Scotland back into the UK.

The down side of that would be trying to get the Scottish population to stomach what is effectively Anglicisation as the legal, education and governing systems that have been unique to Scotland since 1707 would need to be abolished and merged into their UK (i.e. English) equivalents for it to truly work.

Now that large parts of the population of England have become aware of how different Scotland's setup is and has always been, I doubt the status quo ante bellum 1997 would be tolerated by them. Particularly when funding is concerned.

Mike.:hmmm:

Skybird 05-13-20 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2670396)
It's his surname: Sunak sounds very similar to Sarek, the father of Spock in Star Trek.

Mike.:03:

There are more Vulcans in the StarTrekverse.

Sarek, father of Spock.
Surak, famous philosopher.
Saavik, Spock's "pupil".
Sonak, some commander.
Sunak, pretends to be Vulcan, but is a Brit in disguise. :D

And with once black hair and his eyes, your Sunak's look even reminds a bit of a Vulcan.

Dont worry, I was just pulling your leg. Nothing serious was ever intended. But that you took it so seriously "provoked" me a bit to continue... ;)

MGR1 05-13-20 07:23 PM

No worries, Sky! I'll admit that as soon as I heard about him I made the Vulcan connection as well. The name has actually been used:

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Sunak

Mike.:D

Skybird 05-14-20 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2670507)
No worries, Sky! I'll admit that as soon as I heard about him I made the Vulcan connection as well. The name has actually been used:

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Sunak

Mike.:D


Maybe my memory of a Sonak is this encyclopedia's Sunak.



Yeah, i was not about you, MGR1, but Jim originally seems to have misunderstood my intention a bit, took it somewhat personal I fear - which it never was meant to be, and to my best assessment: is not any offending at all. Just a harmless joke, Jim - okay?

Skybird 05-14-20 06:16 AM

Correcting myself: Sunak-the-Vulcan and Sonak are not the same.


https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Sonak

Jimbuna 05-14-20 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2670558)



Yeah, i was not about you, MGR1, but Jim originally seems to have misunderstood my intention a bit, took it somewhat personal I fear - which it never was meant to be, and to my best assessment: is not any offending at all. Just a harmless joke, Jim - okay?

No, never in a million years did I take it personally, I simply couldn't make the connection and to be totally honest, I used to be a big Star Trek fan but that obviously didn't help me either :doh:

Skybird 05-14-20 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2670570)
No, never in a million years did I take it personally, I simply couldn't make the connection and to be totally honest, I used to be a big Star Trek fan but that obviously didn't help me either :doh:

Okay, then a false alarm. When you brought up the background of your wife I indeed told myself "Careful now, he got something queer there." And continued :D

Jimbuna 05-14-20 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2670618)
Okay, then a false alarm. When you brought up the background of your wife I indeed told myself "Careful now, he got something queer there." And continued :D

That was meant as a joke, my wife is a white Englander born in the same town as myself :03:

Jimbuna 05-16-20 06:26 AM

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"Very little progress" has been made in the latest round of UK-EU trade talks, the UK government has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52679053
Can't say I'm surprised what with everything else that is currently going on around the world.

Jimbuna 05-16-20 06:27 AM

The government has denied that travellers from France will be exempted from the planned coronavirus quarantine measures.

Under the plans announced last weekend, people arriving from abroad must isolate themselves for two weeks.

Those with nowhere to stay will be obliged to isolate in accommodation provided by the authorities.

Initially, a joint statement from the British and French governments said no quarantine measures would apply.

"No quarantine measures would apply to travellers coming from France at this stage; any measures on either side would be taken in a concerted and reciprocal manner," says the statement, which was published on the government's website on 10 May.

"A working group between the two governments will be set up to ensure this consultation throughout the coming weeks."

The policy attracted a warning from the EU not to single out one nation, while some experts suggested it would prove unworkable.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52682411

Skybird 05-16-20 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2670972)
Can't say I'm surprised what with everything else that is currently going on around the world.

I doubt it would have been different a result even without anything going on in the world. The EU wants too much, the UK wants nothing, that is incompatible. They are exactly where I expected them to be. I think Johnsons plan was from beginning on to just let the time pass by.


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