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Buddahaid 04-08-25 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef (Post 2952616)
By Immigration Judges and At the Direction of the Attorney General of the United states. deportations using the Alien enemies Act is Under the purview of the President. That was what this court case was about.

You all thought that Trump designating cartels and gangs as foreign terrorist organizations was just grandstanding? It was not, it now gives the Administration the authority to deport those people under "expedited removal" (which in layman's terms, means a truncated hearing or no hearing).

I recall telling you all back in 2015 when Trump first threw his hat in the ring, that we needed a non politician to shake things up, well buckle up, you kids are in for a ride. :yeah:

https://reason.com/2025/04/08/the-su...n-alien-enemy/

"The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously agreed that alleged members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua have a due process right to challenge President Donald Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) to summarily deport them. At the same time, the majority lifted a temporary restraining order (TRO) that blocked those deportations, saying Venezuelans detained under the AEA must file habeas corpus petitions in Texas, where they are being held, rather than seeking relief in the District of Columbia under the Administrative Procedure Act.

As the Court's unsigned order in Trump v. J.G.G. notes, "'it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law' in the context of removal proceedings," meaning "the detainees are entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard 'appropriate to the nature of the case.'" Specifically, the majority says, "AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal under the Act. The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs."

vienna 04-09-25 01:46 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HUi0Txxdfw4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lLvu-8T8WBQ




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Skybird 04-09-25 06:41 AM

What a puddle of brown stuff he is. Spitefulness with a tie.

“I am telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass,” Trump said during a speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee Dinner in Washington,
“They are dying to make a deal. 'Please, please sir, make a deal. I’ll do anything sir,'” he imitated a begging foreign leader.
https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...e-trade-deals/

Meanwhile, China strikes back with tariffs raised to 84%. Looks more like kicking azz than kissing azz. And tariffs are just the first of many different sorts of arrows in their quiver.

China wont back down. Even if it hurts them - it hurts the US as well, and in the medium andnogh term even more. For China its about loss of face and all that. They wont back down. The longer this game lasts, the more threatening it becomes for the US. In the end their supply with precious earths is at risk, the dollar'S role as global lead currency, and their international credibility. The US may have most of needed ressources in theory - but in practice it needs years to prepare to indeed unearth them, and doing so in an economically self-maintaining way. China can in princple strangle them.

And China can do something else. It can flood the capital markets with US junk bonds. China, India, Brazil hold around 1.2 trillion dollars in US binds, 80% of these is held by China alone. If theyx flood the market with that, it crashes the dollar worse than 2008, also it boosts the BRSC state'S ambiiton to abandon the dollar and foudn their own ghold-based currency. Thes estates and Russia all have bought gold like crazy in recent years, even Russia (which has abandoned practically all US bonds ).

The debts will destroy the US,a nd with a delay, the West. I wonder sometimes whether thereis a US plan to crush the economy intentionally to get relief from this burden by wealth redistrubution and devaluing the counterfeit currency in circulation and finally having a currency "reform" (mass expropriation that is).

Reece 04-09-25 06:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEmChESi6NI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLSIklQSMro

AVGWarhawk 04-09-25 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2952638)
What a puddle of brown stuff he is. Spitefulness with a tie.

“I am telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass,” Trump said during a speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee Dinner in Washington,
“They are dying to make a deal. 'Please, please sir, make a deal. I’ll do anything sir,'” he imitated a begging foreign leader.
https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...e-trade-deals/

Meanwhile, China strikes back with tariffs raised to 84%. Looks more like kicking azz than kissing azz. And tariffs are just the first of many different sorts of arrows in their quiver.

China wont back down. Even if it hurts them - it hurts the US as well, and in the medium andnogh term even more. For China its about loss of face and all that. They wont back down. The longer this game lasts, the more threatening it becomes for the US. In the end their supply with precious earths is at risk, the dollar'S role as global lead currency, and their international credibility. The US may have most of needed ressources in theory - but in practice it needs years to prepare to indeed unearth them, and doing so in an economically self-maintaining way. China can in princple strangle them.

And China can do something else. It can flood the capital markets with US junk bonds. China, India, Brazil hold around 1.2 trillion dollars in US binds, 80% of these is held by China alone. If theyx flood the market with that, it crashes the dollar worse than 2008, also it boosts the BRSC state'S ambiiton to abandon the dollar and foudn their own ghold-based currency. Thes estates and Russia all have bought gold like crazy in recent years, even Russia (which has abandoned practically all US bonds ).

The debts will destroy the US,a nd with a delay, the West. I wonder sometimes whether thereis a US plan to crush the economy intentionally to get relief from this burden by wealth redistrubution and devaluing the counterfeit currency in circulation and finally having a currency "reform" (mass expropriation that is).

And China should be left to do as they wish?

AVGWarhawk 04-09-25 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2952596)
No one is forcing you to buy the Chinese parts.

But when one needs an item there is very little one can chose from other than China made.

Buddahaid 04-09-25 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2952655)
But when one needs an item there is very little one can chose from other than China made.

So, forcing up that price is better? Even if it makes a US company start making them it doesn't preclude that part will be of higher quality, just more expensive.

Anyway, another court ruling from a Trump appointed lawyer demands Trump allow the AP equal access he gives the other press and that he has violated the first amendment. The ruling has also been stayed to allow Trump to go whine at the SCOTUS for relief. I don't think he will win this one as the ruling is well rendered.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...682.46.0_1.pdf

"MEMORANDUM ORDER

About two months ago, President Donald Trump renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America. The Associated Press did not follow suit. For that editorial choice, the White House sharply curtailed the AP’s access to coveted, tightly controlled media events with the President.

The AP now sues the White House chief of staff, her communications deputy, and the press secretary (collectively, “the Government”), seeking a preliminary injunction enjoining the Government from excluding it because of its viewpoint.

Today, the Court grants that relief. But this injunction does not limit the various permissible reasons the Government may have for excluding journalists from limited-access events. It does not mandate that all eligible journalists, or indeed any journalists at all, be given access to the President or nonpublic government spaces. It does not prohibit government
officials from freely choosing which journalists to sit down with for interviews or which ones’ questions they answer. And it certainly does not prevent senior officials from publicly expressing their own views.

No, the Court simply holds that under the First Amendment, if the Government opens its doors to some journalists—be it to the Oval Office, the East Room, or elsewhere—it cannot then shut those doors to other journalists because of their viewpoints. The Constitution requires no less."

AVGWarhawk 04-09-25 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2952668)
So, forcing up that price is better? Even if it makes a US company start making them it doesn't preclude that part will be of higher quality, just more expensive.

Not sure how you construed forcing up the price was gotten from my statement. I'm good with higher quality and more expensive. Particle board furniture is horrible and cheap. It does not survive the first time one moves it. Solid wood furniture is durable, lasts a lifetime and will be passed onto the next generation. It s not cheap. But I'm only buying one time. The Amish appreciate that. :up:

August 04-09-25 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2952668)
So, forcing up that price is better?


So buying cheaply made goods from a communist country that keeps it's markets mainly closed to foreign competition, that uses slave labor and thumbs it's nose at environmental concerns in order to undercut our own domestic manufacturers is better to you? Is that the official Democrat party stance?

AVGWarhawk 04-09-25 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2952673)
So buying cheaply made goods from a communist country that keeps it's markets mainly closed to foreign competition, that uses slave labor and thumbs it's nose at environmental concerns in order to undercut our own domestic manufacturers is better to you? Is that the official Democrat party stance?

All valid points! :yeah:

Buddahaid 04-09-25 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2952673)
So buying cheaply made goods from a communist country that keeps it's markets mainly closed to foreign competition, that uses slave labor and thumbs it's nose at environmental concerns in order to undercut our own domestic manufacturers is better to you? Is that the official Democrat party stance?

You keep trying to tell me what I think. Those goods are there, and no one is forced to buy them.

August 04-09-25 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2952680)
You keep trying to tell me what I think

No I am not I just asked you a couple of questions. Apparently making you think at all about the consequences of your positions makes you defensive.

Enjoy your Chinese slave labor merch Comrade!

Buddahaid 04-09-25 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2952684)
No I am not I just asked you a couple of questions. Apparently making you think at all about the consequences of your positions makes you defensive.

Enjoy your Chinese slave labor merch Comrade!

Let's have Trump then lead the way. Let's see Trump and his family stop having their crap made in China and give up their Chinese patents as a shining light for true patriots to rally behind. :yeah:

AVGWarhawk 04-09-25 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2952686)
Let's have Trump then lead the way. Let's see Trump and his family stop having their crap made in China and give up their Chinese patents as a shining light for true patriots to rally behind. :yeah:

Trump having his way is bringing back manufacturing to the US. Jobs for the working man/woman. Why is this such a problem for you? I do not understand. Oh yes....Trump.

Ostfriese 04-09-25 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2952703)
Trump having his way is bringing back manufacturing to the US. Jobs for the working man/woman. Why is this such a problem for you?


Because it's a lie. An illusion. It won't bring manufacturing jobs to the US.You're lying to yourself, and I'm sure you already know and understand that.


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