^ Your article sources says everything, Markus. China produces many things that they then dump in the U.S. Without access to U.S Markets, China's economy will tank. China is in reality an enemy of the U.S. It has poisoned our population and kids and threatens our friends and allies.

The U.S can produce any of the low quality junk China manufactures. If no one buys China's junk, their economy will suffer badly.

Now to American domestic policy.

In the same Danish newspaper as used above says that the Dems are, despite Trumps chaos, in deep trouble. Some passage from the article

More about the Parties polls
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/16/p...ats/index.html

Markus

Newsome will make a run at it, but He's screwed California up so badly he can't win against Vance. (provided Vance doesn't misstep he will be nominated in 2028) :03:

The people may work where every they like. Or like the rest of Americans, they accept work where they can get it.

Back to these tariffs

I see a world, where USA is left out, where the world is having a free trade agreement-USA is all by themselves. Europe, Middle east and Far east have made a deal where there's no tariff.

Could this be a possible scenario ?

Markus

Isolationism.

You see a lot of things Markus but before you can consummate this latest fantasy you'd have to get Europe, the Middle East and Far East to open up their markets to each other. Really open them up, and also end all the tariffs you presently apply to each other too.

My fantasies was based on several article I have been reading the last few days

Markus

I don't think you quite understand how big player China is in global trade and manufacturing. It's not just "cheap junk" that gets sold in the US, it's also the "quality" stuff that more likely than not has something in it that comes from China or might even have been assembled in China. You are surrounded by stuff from China.

And sure, on paper US could produce a lot of the stuff, but making it actually happen takes years. Building a manufacturing plant for the product, possible more plants for the materials in the supply chain etc. The end product would also be vastly more expensive due to higher manufacturing costs compared to China. Lastly it would be a risky investment because of how suddenly things can change in your country, the next president might make a complete u-turn and suddenly getting stuff from China becomes much, much cheaper again. But then, in another 4 years everything might reverse again. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone willing to take that risk.


I very much doubt China will back down, after all they can continue trade with the rest of the world. The US is still just a singular country among many.

To a varying degrees, you're correct, regarding Chinese goods. However, with regards to Automotive applications, their products are garbage. At parts stores, I always ask if the products are made in China. If so, I won't buy them. Chinese made Rotors vary in quality and in general, just junk. They warp easily as the Metallurgy and quality control standards are not even close to what we have in the U.S. The electronic Sensors from China are terrible too.

I had mentioned working on Japanese Motorcycles where the production run has ended. China filled the void. I have seen Chinese components that were bad right out of the box. I know of a few friends who's motorcycles are off the road for lack of quality spare parts.

Chinese made hand tools are of low quality that don't fit fasteners and round off the bolts. I question their heat treating as well.

With regards to China backing down, I don't think the U.S cares and would prefer to restart it's Industries. The U.S is the largest economy and China has gotten rich selling it's wares in the U.S. Losing that market would be a huge loss to China and China knows it. To be sure, this is a contentious Issue and it's anyone's guess how this will work out.

By the way Dowly, welcome back to Subsim. I haven't seen you here in a while. It's great to have your Input and contributions again. :yep:

In a free market someone would fill that void with high quality parts at a price premium. If no one is doing that than there is no market for it. No one is forcing you to buy the Chinese parts.

Judge James Boasberg overstepped and got his tally-wacker smacked by the Supreme Court. They vacated his injunction since he did not have jurisdiction to hear the case. This is good news in reigning in liberals "judge shopping" whenever they want to throw a hissy fit over a policy they don't like.

I never said anyone forced me to buy the Chinese parts, did I ? the fact is, high quality parts don''t exist. I had mentioned in earlier posts in this thread that I purchased complete Motorcycles for spare parts. Apparently, you missed those posts. The mere fact that you say that tells me you wouldn't know the first thing about it or Motorcycles for that matter.

I saw that too. I wanted to see how long it took for someone to post on this Issue. Judge James Boasbergis is a clown and as you said, way overstepped his authority. This is good news for Trump's agenda in removing Individuals who should not be here.

Apparently Judge James Boasbergis thought he was responsible for formulating Domestic and Foreign Policy.

EDITED, wrong case. They ruled against him as far as returning people already in El Salvador but future people targeted for deportation will have public hearings.

By Immigration Judges and At the Direction of the Attorney General of the United states. deportations using the Alien enemies Act is Under the purview of the President. That was what this court case was about.

You all thought that Trump designating cartels and gangs as foreign terrorist organizations was just grandstanding? It was not, it now gives the Administration the authority to deport those people under "expedited removal" (which in layman's terms, means a truncated hearing or no hearing).

I recall telling you all back in 2015 when Trump first threw his hat in the ring, that we needed a non politician to shake things up, well buckle up, you kids are in for a ride. :yeah: