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Buddahaid 04-07-25 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese (Post 2952390)
Ford designs and builds cars explicitly for the European markets, cars which aren't sold in the US. In short: they have adapted to the market - and, surprise, it was successful. None of the other American car makers ever tried that - and none of them ever gained a foothold beyond a niché in Europe.

Cadillac tried as an offshoot of Volvo with the BLS. And I think Chrysler was involved with Fiat and Citroen in the past and is currently involved with Fiat and PSA Group as Stellantis.

AVGWarhawk 04-07-25 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1394 (Post 2952392)
These import tariffs won't last for ever...
Its a great opportunity, to buy decent stocks or companies at a low price.

The price you got today for stocks like Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia, Amazon... is something some people couldn't dream off a few months ago.


Its not a bad idea to invest in them around this time.

Word of a 90 day hold. In short, 90 days for countries to sort out tariffs with the USA. Market did go green a bit today. Then slumped again.

Raf1394 04-07-25 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2952394)
Word of a 90 day hold. In short, 90 days for countries to sort out tariffs with the USA. Market did go green a bit today. Then slumped again.

Some say its rumor.

But nevertheless. I believe these tariffs are temporary.
the moment Trump or any government official will announce something official about dropping or lowering tariffs. The markets will go back up.

A normal 10% tariff was already accepted by the market, it was priced in.
The markets just panicked world wide the last week. Because its suddenly 30%.

I see this moment, as an ideal investment opportunity. Most stocks are down because of the panic. Not because the companies have financial trouble.
Having these 30% rates for a long time, would harm everyone. even the US. Its being used as an temporary bargain negotiating tool.

mapuc 04-07-25 10:54 AM

Depending on which side my FB-friends stand when it comes to Trump is how they see him as a business man-Those who dislike him, say he sucked as such, while those who support him say he was mostly successful.

I guess the same result would be the case here too, but I ask anyway

Was/is Trump a successful business man ?

Markus

AVGWarhawk 04-07-25 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Raf1394 (Post 2952395)
Some say its rumor.

But nevertheless. I believe these tariffs are temporary.
the moment Trump or any government official will announce something official about dropping or lowering tariffs. The markets will go back up.

A normal 10% tariff was already accepted by the market, it was priced in.
The markets just panicked world wide the last week. Because its suddenly 30%.

I see this moment, as an ideal investment opportunity. Most stocks are down because of the panic. Not because the companies have financial trouble.
Having these 30% rates for a long time, would harm everyone. even the US. Its being used as an temporary bargain negotiating tool.

Could well be. Next...interest rates.

Dargo 04-07-25 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2952396)
Depending on which side my FB-friends stand when it comes to Trump is how they see him as a business man-Those who dislike him, say he sucked as such, while those who support him say he was mostly successful.

I guess the same result would be the case here too, but I ask anyway

Was/is Trump a successful business man ?

Markus

If you can bankrupt a casino... ?
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Trump’s challenges in the casino industry were not just external. The internal financial structure of his ventures, particularly the Taj Mahal, was fraught with risks. Heavily reliant on debt, these establishments faced immense pressure to generate substantial revenue. Financial analysts, like Mark Hoffberg of The Wall Street Journal, predicted early on that the seasonal fluctuations in tourism would severely impact these casinos’ ability to cover operational costs and debt payments.

Trump’s response to these challenges was varied and controversial. He initially dismissed critics and analysts who foresaw the impending financial troubles. As the predictions materialized, Trump’s strategy included blaming external factors and individuals, including contractors and business associates, for the failures.

By the early 1990s, the financial situation of Trump’s casino empire had become critical. Multiple bankruptcy filings ensued: the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991, followed by Trump Plaza and Trump Castle in 1992 and later Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc. in 2004. These filings were a clear indication of the dire state of his casino ventures. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donal...181258334.html
:hmmm:

AVGWarhawk 04-07-25 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2952415)
If you can bankrupt a casino... ?:hmmm:

Even a McDonalds can fail.

mapuc 04-07-25 02:36 PM

An article I had to translate in small quantities, since it refuse to translate the entire article-The headline said 'Trump days are coming to an end'.

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America's economic policy risks costing President Donald Trump the support of his most harden supporters.

That's the assessment of self-made entrepreneur Martin Thorborg, after an escalating trade war has led to blood-red numbers on the stock market for several days in a row.

"I honestly believe that Trump's days are numbered. You shouldn't piss on Americans' fortunes," he wrote in an X post on Monday.

Thorborg explained to B.T. that he definitely expects a drop in voter support for Trump as a result of the trade war and a series of new tariffs that have raised concerns about an economic recession in the United States.

He is already seeing the change in mood on social media:

"I follow all sorts of profiles on X, who are big voices in the capital system, the entrepreneurial environment ... Business people and clear Republicans who have defended Trump," he says.

"Several of those profiles have turned on a plate."

He also notes that tech billionaire Elon Musk, who is a supporter and advisor to Trump, has spoken warmly in recent days about eliminating all tariffs between Europe and the United States. It is a message that stands in stark contrast to Trump's statements, Thorborg notes.

The Danish entrepreneur acknowledges that Trump will continue to have his supporters in certain places in the United States.

"But I think that the Republican elite - those who are active in the stock market, those who have pension savings ... It is starting to hurt them now," he says.

Thorborg states that he has never been one of Trump's political supporters himself.

"Well, when I was 18 I had a poster hanging because I thought he was cool. I took it down when I was 19," he says.

"But throughout my normal adult life, I have detested him because I think he is a primitive jerk. He represents everything I don't like about a person.
The last sentence disqualified him as he has a personal vendetta against Trump.

Markus

Catfish 04-07-25 03:34 PM

He sees it as it is. Including the last sentence ;)

Dargo 04-08-25 11:07 AM

Howard Marks predicted:
  1. Dot-com Bubble (2000)
  2. Great Recession (2008)
  3. The COVID Bubble (2021)
After World War II a regime of economic integration was deliberately picked to make countries interdependent to prevent another war. This came to known as globalization. Tariffs signs a step back from this regime. Global trade was the biggest driver of prosperity in the last 80 years. Marks likens it to a wave that lifted all boats. United States also massively benefited from this. How? It turned from an manufacturing economy to a service economy.

Global trade unleashed potential for every country. Because of the global trade, US could outsource low value manufacturing from poorer countries and focused on high value services. If people in the US aren't assembling iPhones for $1/hour, this is because of free trade. Tariffs threaten to change this. Inflation will skyrocket. Global trade and cheap manufacturing lead to 40% reduction in prices of durable goods, despite the fact that the USD lost 75% of its value since the World War II. This won't happen any more. Costs will increase and goods will become more expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnUyGM5M-I

AVGWarhawk 04-08-25 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2952511)
Howard Marks predicted:
  1. Dot-com Bubble (2000)
  2. Great Recession (2008)
  3. The COVID Bubble (2021)
After World War II a regime of economic integration was deliberately picked to make countries interdependent to prevent another war. This came to known as globalization. Tariffs signs a step back from this regime. Global trade was the biggest driver of prosperity in the last 80 years. Marks likens it to a wave that lifted all boats. United States also massively benefited from this. How? It turned from an manufacturing economy to a service economy.

Global trade unleashed potential for every country. Because of the global trade, US could outsource low value manufacturing from poorer countries and focused on high value services. If people in the US aren't assembling iPhones for $1/hour, this is because of free trade. Tariffs threaten to change this. Inflation will skyrocket. Global trade and cheap manufacturing lead to 40% reduction in prices of durable goods, despite the fact that the USD lost 75% of its value since the World War II. This won't happen any more. Costs will increase and goods will become more expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnUyGM5M-I

It is common knowledge the USA is a service economy. This individual is not telling anything new. High value services? Like cashier or clerk?

Let the new tariffs stand.

Dargo 04-08-25 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2952513)
It is common knowledge the USA is a service economy. This individual is not telling anything new. High value services? Like cashier or clerk?

Let the new tariffs stand.

Can't wait to see the retaliation to the retaliation of the retaliation against the retaliatory tariffs.

https://i.ibb.co/BKcX1pqD/Igotthis.jpg

AVGWarhawk 04-08-25 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2952516)
Can't wait to see the retaliation to the retaliation of the retaliation against the retaliatory tariffs.

https://i.ibb.co/BKcX1pqD/Igotthis.jpg

Best of luck. Enjoy the show.

Dargo 04-08-25 11:41 AM

In mere days, Wall Street has seen large sums of stock market value evaporate. US markets are more than 15% lower than before Trump's inauguration. Bankers and shareholders have drawn comparisons with the start of the 2008 financial crisis. J.P. Morgan now puts the chances of a recession by the end of the year at 60% that was 40% before the levies were announced. Goldman Sachs raised the probability from 20% to 45%. What a great leadership!

AVGWarhawk 04-08-25 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2952522)
In mere days, Wall Street has seen large sums of stock market value evaporate. US markets are more than 15% lower than before Trump's inauguration. Bankers and shareholders have drawn comparisons with the start of the 2008 financial crisis. J.P. Morgan now puts the chances of a recession by the end of the year at 60% that was 40% before the levies were announced. Goldman Sachs raised the probability from 20% to 45%. What a great leadership!

These people can predict a financial crisis, recession, crash, depression about as much as you and I can predict the Rapture.

I talked to my financial advisor today. Nothing to do with what is going on with the market. He said he does not know how to handle this(said the same with COVID). This is all very new to the financial world. They are just as lost as the next guy.


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