Meanwhile in Argentina...
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He doesn't look to happy with the person taking the picture.

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HunterICX

Trump not satisfied with being a rich douche, sets a new goal.

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Putin ain't havin' none of that though.

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^ thanks for this pic, lol my wife loves BMWs :O:
(God knows i don't, i hate repairing them :dead: )

But this got me thinking ..
just some thoughts - so the men on the bike and around belong to the SS - sure there was the Waffen SS which was just an elite Corps (although not after 1942 anymore, the first wave had all been killed and then everyone was drawn in by sheer threat) and the 'Black order' SS participants, ok.

The people being in those Units were probably well-trained soldiers, maybe with a certain conviction or ideology being imprinted on them, but maybe not all - just young and keen to prove themselves, wanting to belong to and fight for the 'right cause'.

Like with all 'elite' units, first you break the man by hefty training, shouting, humiliation and sleep withdrawal, and then you rebuild them again, to be perfect soldiers. The younger People are, the easier to do that. Has always been the same, from Sparta to the Marine Corps, Speznaz or SAS, Seals etc..

Now when those People have been properly conditioned and now really believe they are the good, are elite Units today so different from the SS ?
I mean they did not know better, and after WW2 the world condemned the survivors for not having been critical against their own government and leadership, and not having tried to putsch or kill Hitler etc..
Sure they may have come to know that what they did was atrocious, but they did never question the ideal or fighting on until the end.

Nowadays we are better informed (we think), and we get all kinds of reminders we are not the good cause, from Wikileaks to the Media and Internet - so why don't we protest against obvious violations like torture, and killing citizens and neutral civilians abroad ? Because there is a "war against terrorism", since 9/11 ? Would a Marine be supposed do putsch gainst his own government, if he knew his participation somewhere in the world was against international law, or a fraud ?
One Mr. Mannning did that, and look what happens to him.
But most never question their orders today. So were the men on the Picture so different from today's 'elite' Units ? :hmm2:

Rilder, that kid was probably hurt pretty bad. What makes it funny, and he deserved to get laughed at, is he was so stupid to hold a gun like that. He deserved to get any and all ridicule. :har:

Catfish, I think you worded your statement kind of bad, but I understand what you mean. I agree with you, the soldiers now, and even the allied soldiers then, are no different than those from Nazi Germany. If you look into military history, you'll find that soldiers have recently respected their opponents and treated them with military courtesy. We need to respect all military, even if the leaders were wrong. The soldiers were/are fighting for their country, their families. The soldiers didn't/don't start the war, the leaders do. Ending the rant now.