And now for the rest of the story...
 

Time has passed. The incident thoroughly investigated and relayed to the news hounds.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boy...ket/ar-BBhmnXx


I don't put much stock in early news reports on these types of stories.
They lack too many intimate details. So, everyone reads what is just a headline for an incomplete news report and the rest is left to the imagination. It's no wonder that I see so many snap judgement wrong opinions posted.

To our cousins across the pond,
You may rail against our freedom to possess firearms all you wish. It's OK. You have a right to your opinion...
But it won't change our constitution or convince us to change it for you.
Ever.

Enjoy
I was just curious about the people behind them.:hmmm:

Nice thing about the 1911 is that it makes a pretty good club in a pinch. :D

We have a air gun thread that is very popular...My suggestion is for you to go there......worse case, you might put someone's eye out.....

Well said! :salute:

:haha::haha:

I love those 1911's

I have one that was handed down from my grandfather he purchased Surplus way back when.

It has the "United States Army" stamp and a manufacture date of 1911... and it is in tip top condition

i like the look of the Colt Defender and the Crimson Ultra Carry II

ouch... straight from the hip I guess :yeah:

I bet you die a virgin..

I don't kinow about your Air Guns but mine will kill you just as quick as a .22 or .30 cal powder burner will.
Heck my SMG .22 puts out rounds at 12 shots per second at over 850 FPS.
Would you like to be within 30 yards of that?

Somewhat trigger happy?
Watch the safety rules:O:


All is well .. I slide...:sunny:

I can't argue with that, nothing anyone says is going to change anyones mind. I was just pondering if anyone had an answer to the question I posed which was not intended maliciously although perhaps it came across that way, but a genuine question and viewpoint I hold.
In regards to personal safety, well a gun is probably the most effective killing device devised by man, and certainly one of the more user friendly devices.
Well, depending on the gun that is, admittedly.
It would, for people like me who like to see the old guns fired at ranges, also be a shame if guns were completely banned in America because it would end the nice youtube vids from the professionals who explain the various ins and outs of the gun in question (hickok45 for example).
Of course, a gun is only as safe as the person holding it. Can't argue with that either, guns don't fire themselves...well, not yet anyway.
So no, I don't argue for the abolishment of the 2nd Amendment, that would be daft and cause a civil war, but I do agree that some legal means are needed to drill proper gun safety into the idiots who don't practice it. Target identification should be something that's also looked at, but to be fair in the heat of the moment it's pretty hard to be sure so there's that.
I don't have the answers, that's down to Americans, and I wish them well with it, in the meantime us Europeans will probably continue to be baffled by it, because of the culture difference. That is just how it is. :shucks:

Oh me, here come the air gun guy, being insecure with what:oops:, must compare his air gun to a real gun not only in model, but complete specifications.

Yes, I know some do, but my statement was to the intent....that it might be a better forum him to relearn gun safety and proper shooting, not the rack and shoot in 1 second center mass method..:har:

No insult intended to him of course, just good wishes for a long and prosperous life.... If he does come, you being knowledgeable, maybe start him off on a Daisy Red Ryder . It's a good starting air gun. I still have mine from the late 60's with the compass built into the stock....

That video is blocked here.
A general statement that one would shoot an eye out at the worst down plays the dangers of any type Gun.

Of course us Gun Totin'/Lovin' 'Mericans would know that.
And I ain't insecure about it Richard!

Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQeyi2Fc40

Or this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubipY1RKPo