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Otto Harkaman 03-24-25 11:19 PM

https://youtu.be/VZRLrnpIVM0?si=_pvoxfWEJ4hZqnIs

Catfish 03-25-25 12:35 AM

I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

u crank 03-25-25 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2950429)
I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

I have followed Hanson for years. My guess is that you think he is a moron because you don't agree with him. Can you explain why? What did he say that you think is not true?

Eichhörnchen 03-25-25 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2950390)
Using an ordinary messenger service, cute. Next time they could just post all secretive stuff on Facebook :D

We've got tighter security in the Squirrel Club https://i.imgur.com/g25Iw8g.jpeg

Skybird 03-25-25 10:32 AM

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp


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Which brings us to the hatred of Europe: The leak not only reveals the clumsy handling of sensitive and secret information. It also further illustrates what the Trump administration thinks of Europe.

“I just hate to bail out Europe again,” is a statement that highlights how deeply rooted the antipathy towards Europe is in Trump’s administration.

Hegseth ultimately agreed with Vance and underscored his disdain for Europe's security policy being dragged along by the US. "I share your disgust for Europe's parasitism. It's pathetic," he clarified.
The Houthis in Yemen - here supporters of the militia at a demonstration against Israel and the USA in Sanaa, 2024

Rather than seeing the US as part of an alliance, the chat participants seem to view the US as a completely independent superpower capable of exploiting other states. The Trump administration has repeatedly argued that America's European allies benefit economically from the US Navy's protection of international sea lanes.

The contemptuous style of communication in the chat makes clear the future attitude the US government will take toward its long-standing allies in Europe. Europe is portrayed as a "parasite."

Anyone who initially thought this was mere election campaign polemic will be proven wrong once again when reading the chat excerpts: the hatred of Europe is real.

And thats probably where European assessment of the Trump administration still errs the most. That the American dispise for Europe is not just a showact, but indeed real.



And the US even has a point there when it accuses Europe of parasitism regarding its lacking defense. As Europe currently finds out at its own cost. I just still doubt that the consequences really have already fully dawned on everybody, and how urgent and tight the time window is.

Dargo 03-25-25 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2950485)
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp





And thats probably where European assessment of the Trump administration still errs the most. That the American dispise for Europe is not just a showact, but indeed real.



And the US even has a point there when it accuses Europe of parasitism regarding its lacking defense. As Europe currently finds out at its own cost. I just still doubt that the consequences really have already fully dawned on everybody, and how urgent and tight the time window is.

This is not new read Project 2025.

Catfish 03-25-25 12:08 PM

Also it was already Obama who said that Europe had to raise its defense budgets. England was busy with brexit and Germany had been held down so long that the pure idea of a war was a no-go, also as in a lot of other ways we thought if we don'start a war, nobody will.
Wishful thinking, blindness or whatever.
Even during the last elections parties talked about anything but the russian elephant in the room.

re ucrank ok so you have more insight into this Hanson guy, but this last video is full of imho wrong statements. He probably has the data but presents them with a 180 degree turn, as conclusions.
Will get to this, but not enough time right now.

August 03-25-25 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2950492)
This is not new read Project 2025.


:) "Not new = Project 2025.

VipertheSniper 03-25-25 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2950429)
I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

I guess you didn't have a look at the rest of the channel the first time around. I was tempted to post then: Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Maybe don't try to deny people the right to due process, or other rights guaranteed by the constitution and you wouldn't have to deal with all those lawsuits.

The comments under the video are something else. Calling for the administration to ignore court orders. Separation of Powers anyone?
They all clamor for a fascist state, where the only rights you have are those granted by the dear leader or with a more generous reading the just have no idea of the implications, as long as the immigrants are thrown out, everything goes. If the administration ignores court orders when it comes to immigration, they might as well ignore any court order. Do they really think ignoring court orders is gonna stop at immigration? If this administration thinks they can get away with that, they will just ignore the courts altogether, even the SCOTUS if it's convenient for them.

u crank 03-25-25 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2950496)
re ucrank ok so you have more insight into this Hanson guy, but this last video is full of imho wrong statements. He probably has the data but presents them with a 180 degree turn, as conclusions.
Will get to this, but not enough time right now.

:salute:

Dargo 03-25-25 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2950384)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-plans/682151/

"Lets make sure our messaging is tight there." :har:

:hmmm:

https://i.ibb.co/JRcjhnfJ/Leek.jpg

Catfish 03-25-25 02:03 PM

bloody brilliant lol

Buddahaid 03-25-25 10:31 PM

And to sink the “Dog ate my homework” elementary school kids in the Principals’s office excuse offered up before Congress, here are the Biden era memos regarding cell phone use.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/f...-practices.pdf

https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0...MobileApps.pdf

Otto Harkaman 03-25-25 10:57 PM

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https://ell.h-cdn.co/assets/16/28/16...mmy-fallon.jpg

Buddahaid 03-26-25 07:58 AM

Pennsylvania loses a MAGA Senate seat in a special election. That’s two now with the 5th District in Oregon.

“A very safe +15 Trump State Senate Seat in Pennsylvania flipped to blue as Democrat James Malone pulled off a stunning upset.”


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