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Buddahaid 03-20-25 03:59 PM

It's the Constitution working as intended and there is nothing radical about it.

Buddahaid 03-20-25 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2949731)
Well, if Pelosi is supposed to protect and handle security of these judges they are screwed. :doh:

Maybe Trump shouldn't try and fire up his radical base to violence again.

AVGWarhawk 03-20-25 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2949740)
Maybe Trump shouldn't try and fire up his radical base to violence again.

Maybe the TDS and Musk haters should stop lighting cars on fire, threats of death and generally be idiots should find something better to do . Sheesh

Buddahaid 03-20-25 04:18 PM

They should stop breaking the law as it only helps the Trump MAGA TDS. They can still hate all they want and work to bring Musk and Trump down.

AVGWarhawk 03-20-25 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2949743)
They should stop breaking the law as it only helps the Trump MAGA TDS. They can still hate all they want and work to bring Musk and Trump down.

Breaking the law??? What, burning cars, threats of killing and confrontation with Tesla owners are simply disagreements? There is no justification for it. Get a grip.

Buddahaid 03-20-25 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2949747)
Breaking the law??? What, burning cars, threats of killing and confrontation with Tesla owners are simply disagreements? There is no justification for it. Get a grip.

Yes, that's called breaking the law. They should be prosecuted, or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn? You get a grip on how the justice system works.

Shearwater 03-20-25 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman (Post 2949732)
It’s Time For Congress To Stop The Judicial Sabotage Of Trump’s Agenda
A small group of Democrat activists, with the help of activist judges, are disrupting the court system because they didn’t win the election, and there is no other way for them to assert their power. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis called it “sabotage” in a social media post that calls for Congress to step in with legislation to rein in judicial resistance.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/20...trumps-agenda/

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The U.S. government’s authority is intentionally separated into three branches, legislative, executive, and judicial, so no single branch becomes too powerful. Our nation was not designed for a president to put forth ideas and ask the court’s permission. Yet that is what is happening. Certain, cherry-picked judges are taking over the rule of the country, mishandling the numerous legal challenges to nearly every aspect of President Donald Trump’s agenda.
What the article seems to suggest is that it is somehow that it is undemocratic that a democratically elected president whose measures enjoy a large support in the population gets challenged in the courts, it is overreach. Yet, what is it – resistance to the current rule, or the rule of the country? The article isn’t too clear on that.

Asking the court's permission, in the articles parlance, is a given - not in advance of course, but if a decision or a law seems to violate another law, it is not only the at the judges' discretion to intervene, it is their duty. A judge can't just go like "Meh, I'ma gonna reject that law because Trump". A legal challenge has to be justified and backed with argumentsa, and can of course be subject to legal challenges itself.

Trump has a majority in Congress and good chances that SCOTUS will be more conservative-leaning in most of its decisions.
So maybe it also has to do with the way the current president goes about government. Laws are complicated. There's a reason why they get debated, revised, amended, approved or rejected all the time. It looks complicated, but guess what, it is complicated and of course it’s a frustrating process that quite often seems needlessly elaborate. Part of it is to make sure that a new law holds water and is properly vetted. And if it’s a controversial law with involving lots of debate, there is even public opinion to deal with.
And yet, he prefers to rule by executive orders rather than by trying to put his agenda into laws. In the first weeks of his term, he signed 89 executive orders (compared to the 220 in total during his first term as president). Given the majorities he enjoys, there would be no pressing need to rush things through like he does. So, there are plausibly two major reasons for why he does it:
1) He either thinks that his decisions are perfectly right and justified and just have been stalled in the past by people hostile to him, and for political reasons, or
2) he or his advisors rush things through to avoid parliamentary and public scrutiny.
3) he wants to take credit for implementing his projects himself, rather than letting Congress take it.
Make of that what you will. If a lot of decisions are taken within a very short time, don’t be surprised that a lot of decisions will get critisized.

AVGWarhawk 03-20-25 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2949763)
Yes, that's called breaking the law. They should be prosecuted, or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn? You get a grip on how the justice system works.

It worked for Vlad the Impaler. 😉

Jeff-Groves 03-20-25 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2949763)
or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn

How about in Death Valley? Don't even have to rename that place.

Reece 03-20-25 08:00 PM

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Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.
Some political choices are not just stupid or crude. They represent the return of our country’s cruelest, most dangerous passion. Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us.
https://www.dcreport.org/2025/03/20/...trumps-racism/

Buddahaid 03-20-25 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2949768)
It worked for Vlad the Impaler. 😉

And he ended up being beheaded in 1476 and his head displayed in Constantinople as a trophy. :Kaleun_Wink:

Cybermat47 03-21-25 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2949662)
Last I checked, Trump did not go to the website and pull down this individuals page of accomplishments. The question is, who did and why.

An employee of the Trump administration did it because he was following Trump’s directives.

AVGWarhawk 03-21-25 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2949785)
An employee of the Trump administration did it because he was following Trump’s directives.

The question is, how did this individual deem a medal to be provided because of DEI? Truth be told, none of this should have happened no matter the directive.

August 03-21-25 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2949822)
The question is, how did this individual deem a medal to be provided because of DEI? Truth be told, none of this should have happened no matter the directive.


Look up the term "Malicious Compliance".

AVGWarhawk 03-21-25 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2949824)
Look up the term "Malicious Compliance".

I see, however, it does not explain why this individual was targeted. Let me dig into his story.

EDIT: What bloody idiot determined this was DEI? The medal was awarded in 1970. Whoever took it down should be fired.


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