So, because you suffered everybody else has to suffer as well, did I get that right? Are you are Christian?

Are you saying that government employees deserve a better deal than what is available to the general public whose taxes pay their salary?

No, that's not what I'm saying, but I don't think you'll be able/willing to understand what I want to say, so I won't waste my precious time.

Oh, and you "pay up, Europe" guys will also experience a surprise. Yes, Europe is doing so now, but any money that will be allocated now has to be spent in Europe. So far the European nations spent 63% of their procurement money on American weapons. That's btw. the reason why your corporate overlords hammered the idea of "pay up" into your conservative brains.

However, exactly 0% of the money allocated now and in the near future will be spent in the US or on US companies. Apart from that European countries have also begun to opt out of contracts for American weapons, most notably the F-35. The reasoning behind that: nations don't think America is reliable enough any more to deliver spare parts, software updates and so on.

In short: this will be costly for the US weapons industry. The losses are estimated to be as low as $1 trillion over the next ten years and as high as $6 trillion.
Well done :D

We must be living in the stupidest time line possible. The Trump government has asked European companies to export more eggs to the USA. Which country did they ask first? Denmark (Source, in Danish: https://agriwatch.dk/Nyheder/Landbru...le17985104.ece)


"Hey, we will invade a part of your country if you don't hand it over immediately. Oh, um, could we borrows some eggs, please?" :haha::har:

If you don't want anyone to respond to your posts, don't make any.

:har::har: You guys slay me!! :up:

You want to reduce vulnerability to corruption, and you want that the more the more critical and influential a given job or office is.


There are two forms of corruption employees can be prone to: greed, and need.



The first is if you get enough but think its never enough, you always want more.


The second is if you want to be able to live a reasonable and affordable life, pay for your kids' education, and put some money aside for when you grow old, and you want not needing to worry whether all the lose ends and open bills you can service by the end of the month.


Governments themselves have an own interest as well. They want a loyal gang of accomplices that help to enforce "government" onto the ordinary people, and plunder them and live off them. It gets even more dubious if government, or state, translates into "political parties" and "individual politicians' career interest". Thats the case in practically every nation in the West, and most nations on the globe. Honestyl said: thinking of it I cannot come up with one exception from this rule.



How to solve all this dilemma? Cut back the state as much as possible. I see no other solution that has a chance to work over the longer run.



Of course, state and government want exactly the opposite: as much of themselves as possible, and then ever more. And so they continue to feed their gang of accomplices, and bribe those they formally need to "elect" them with what before they have stolen from them, and they even steal the future of the kids and young.

Not a matter of suffering. It's a matter of the outrage that this could happen. People get laid off or fired everyday. Could multiple people at a single company or just an individual. It's a reality all in the working world face yet for some reason a federal employee loses a job all hell breaks lose over the unfairness of it all. They are required to come back to the office and it's a travesty.

Clinton fired 400,000 federal employees. Biden fired federal employees who did not vaccinate. Democratic outrage with any of these occurrences?

Christian has nothing to with my stance on government downsizing. I'm sorry they lost a job. It happens. This is life. Save the outrage. The news cycle needs to move on about it.

:agree:

Turnover happens more and more in the workplace. In States that have a " Right to work " status, it may be worse. Originally envisioned as a means to insure an employee didn't have to join Unions, it has had other consequences. People in those States don't have a lot in the ways of protection from abuse. Foreign entitles in the U.S have exploited those provisions. Employees can be fired for any reason with little in the way of recourse. DEI initiatives have made that worse.

@ Ostfriese, I have no Idea why you think you have a better understanding of things in the U.S than the Citizens of this Country. You really don't have a " dog in the fight " unless you consider that your Country will have to divert more of It's GDP and GNP to it's own defense. It's about time. To be fair, these conversations should have taken place long ago.

As a side note, the U.S is developing and building the F-15 Eagle EX program. These aircraft are considered Generation 4.5 Aircraft. While the F-15 Eagle EX does not have stealth characteristics, It does have Improvements in Sensor Suites, Engines and weapon deployment including carrying up to 12 AMRAAMs. In capable hands, the newest F-15 Eagle EX is very deadly in areas where Stealth isn't a requirement or necessity. Trained people will be needed to build these and other weapons and Aircraft.



https://www.boeing.com/defense/f-15ex#performance


https://www.19fortyfive.com/2024/11/...le-ii-fighter/

In the two separate cases on the dismissal of thousands of civil servants in their probationary period, two judges on Thursday fielded harsh judgments. One called the dismissals a ‘sham’, the other argued that how they were carried out ‘bordered on the ridiculous’. There are more powers than state and government for good reason. The ‘performance’ of the officials was cited as the reason for the dismissals. But in the opinion of both judges, it was not actually to do so. The government is said to have used it as a ‘trick’ to circumvent legislation on structural downsizing of the government's actual purpose.

Judge William Alsup called it ‘sad’ that ‘our government fires good civil servants, supposedly because of their performance, when they know full well that is not true’. In the other case, Judge James Bredar said that many of the dismissal letters civil servants received ‘did not even superficially’ indicate anything about their performance.

Maybe the letters should have read, 'We don't need you anymore. ". That's how mine and many others read when handed the pink slip.

I work with one federal employee who's email states the following, "I'm tele-working from home. It's best to reach me by email." Bud, tele is short for telephone. Your first line of communication is just that. The telephone. Email means you are not answering your phone because you are busy doing anything but work. You can answer your email when you feel like it. This is the performance issue. He is one of many. Unsupervised. Free for all. I know this because we had a sales person doing anything but sales as he sat 4 hours away unsupervised. He was finally terminated after years of screwing the company.

Only if you wear panties. :D

when we were first married my wife and I worked for the same company, both of us were laid off the same day without advanced notice. it happens. It's not the end of the world either.

FYI: here in America, the State is synonymous with the Government :rolleyes:

So, Trump has enacted war powers so he can deport anyone no matter their legal status or any proof of any allegation. We are now in brown shirt territory, and I hope you are all proud.

fifth columnists

https://youtu.be/AdT_XG-5KIA?si=V7Rq05WMg3F7UmyF

You really, really need to STOP listening to the talking heads on T.V. :yeah:

Good thing I never do that.