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Onkel Neal 09-08-22 09:12 AM

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A gunman who livestreamed himself driving around Memphis shooting at people, killing four and wounding three others in seemingly random attacks, was finally arrested after crashing a stolen car, police said early Thursday.
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Kelly, 19, was released early from a prison sentence for aggravated assault, court records show, raising a sore point between the city's mayor and the county's top prosecutor that played out before the cameras at an early Thursday news conference.

"This is no way for us to live and it is not acceptable," said Memphis Mayor Jim Strickland, who later pounded the podium as he demanded accountability. "If Mr. Kelly served his full three-year sentence, he would still be in prison today and four of our fellow citizens would still be alive," he said.
Oh! You right, May-ah, you right!

ReallyDedPoet 09-08-22 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2826641)
Holy hell, people are stupid.


Another head scratcher for sure.

Rockstar 09-08-22 12:54 PM

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Voters in Shelby County swept away a slate of tough-on-crime officials on Thursday, ushering in a new era for criminal justice in Tennessee’s most populous county, home to Memphis.
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I’m very excited,” Raumesh Akbari, a Democratic state senator from Memphis who champions criminal justice reform, told Bolts as she was leaving Mulroy’s victory party. “I think it’s a new day in Shelby County, with a new district attorney and new juvenile court judge, and it’s gonna be a totally different approach to how we handle the criminal justice system in Shelby County.”
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Gorpet 09-17-22 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2826746)

I think that is a perfect picture of black culture. I just got completely knocked off line.

Sean C 02-13-23 09:08 PM

Active shooter at Michigan State University right now.

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/34012

Rockstar 02-14-23 07:32 AM

3 killed and suspect found dead from self inflicted wound. WTH is wrong with people.

Platapus 02-15-23 04:36 PM

Why do they choose to commit murder and suicide in the wrong order?

August 02-15-23 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2853142)
Why do they choose to commit murder and suicide in the wrong order?


Endemic narcissism.

mapuc 03-30-23 03:46 PM

Made me sad reading this article

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Firearms accounted for nearly 19% of childhood deaths (ages 1-18) in 2021, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Wonder database(. Nearly 3,600 children died in gun-related incidents that year. That’s about five children lost for every 100,000 children in the United States.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/h...-dg/index.html

Markus

Platapus 03-30-23 04:59 PM

We need to start holding gun owners responsible and accountable for the proper safe storage of their weapons when not under their direct control.



Part of being a responsible gun owner is properly securing the weapon so it does not become accessible to the "wrong" people such as kids.

Rockstar 03-30-23 05:05 PM

More than one out of 10 Americans over age 12—roughly 11 percent—take some form of anti-depressant/SSRI that has been known for DECADES to significantly increase thoughts of violence, suicide and aggressive behavior in children and adolescents who used these medications.

Skybird 03-30-23 06:03 PM

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MaDef 03-30-23 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2860729)
Made me sad reading this article



https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/h...-dg/index.html

Markus

On a related note, over 7700 children 18 and under died of drug overdoses. Which is the bigger threat to kids? guns or drugs?

Buddahaid 03-30-23 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef (Post 2860752)
On a related note, over 7700 children 18 and under died of drug overdoses. Which is the bigger threat to kids? guns or drugs?

Does it really matter? Both need to be addressed.

August 03-30-23 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2860753)
Does it really matter? Both need to be addressed.

22 thousand plus gun control laws in this country have failed to solve the problem. Failed to even reduce the problem. Even more constitutionally infringing laws and regulations can not be the answer.

I think we need to do two things. We need to harden our school perimeters and provide security. We also need to have a conversation on how the medias coverage of these events and their perpetrators may actually be contributing to their frequency.

Commander Wallace 03-30-23 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2860757)
22 thousand plus gun control laws in this country have failed to solve the problem. Failed to even reduce the problem. Even more constitutionally infringing laws and regulations can not be the answer.

I think we need to do two things. We need to harden our school perimeters and provide security. We also need to have a conversation on how the medias coverage of these events and their perpetrators may actually be contributing to their frequency.

Indeed, after this sad event in Tennessee, there have been " copy cat " events country wide in the last few days. Security seems to be a very easy and rather elusive means to address these recurring issues. To the Law Enforcement officers credit who responded to this active shooter situation, they handled this situation as quick as humanly possibly and most likely averted more innocent lives being lost in dispatching this disturbed individual. :salute:

Legislatures in various states have floated the idea of having licensed and armed teachers. Some colleges are allowing their students to come to college armed, provided they have a legally obtained concealed carry license. I'm not sure how good of an idea this is however, one thing I am sure of.

Properly armed and trained people who carry weapons make very poor targets and for obvious reasons.

August 03-30-23 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2860763)
Indeed, after this sad event in Tennessee, there have been copy " cat events " country wide in the last few days. Security seems to be a very easy and rather elusive means to address these recurring issues. To the Law Enforcement officers credit who responded to this active shooter situation, they handled this situation as quick as humanly possibly and most likely averted more innocent lives in dispatching this disturbed individual. :salute:

Legislatures in various states have floated the idea of having licensed and armed teachers. Some colleges are allowing their students to come to college armed, provided they have a legally obtained concealed carry license. I'm not sure how good of an idea this is however, one thing I am sure of.

Properly armed and trained people who carry weapons make very poor targets and for obvious reasons.


And just as important if not more they should be hardening school physical security. There are too many unlocked doors and easily shattered large glass panels. Keeping a mad killer outside even for a few minutes might well give law enforcement enough time to neutralize them before they can get at the kids or staff.

Commander Wallace 03-30-23 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2860766)
And just as important if not more they should be hardening school physical security. There are too many unlocked doors and easily shattered large glass panels. Keeping a mad killer outside even for a few minutes might well give law enforcement enough time to neutralize them before they can get at the kids or staff.


That is exactly right. Armed staff / teachers may make a difference as well.

Ostfriese 03-31-23 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2860766)
And just as important if not more they should be hardening school physical security. There are too many unlocked doors and easily shattered large glass panels. Keeping a mad killer outside even for a few minutes might well give law enforcement enough time to neutralize them before they can get at the kids or staff.


Well, schools aren't prisons, and they aren't designed as such for a reason: to make the children not feel like a prisoner. OK, who cares about children's feelings, anyway?
More importantly: all the easily available entryways you want to seal of are at the same time easily available exits. Your idea of creating chokepoints to make it difficult to get into the building also make it difficult to get out of the building, like during a fire.
And most importantly: in most cases of mass shootings the perpetrators know their targets very well, and they have found ways to get in despite hardened security.


Armed teachers? American teachers are already not paid enough and treated like ****, now you want to burden them with the role of SWAT as well? Also this idea would also INCREASE the number of guns in schools.

First of this would make it easier for a perpetrator to get a gun (it's down to mugging 5'1" Mrs. Smith, basically). Secondly teachers are normal people with normal problems, so arming them might have unintended consequences as well (mass shootings HAVE been commited by teachers as well).
Even with training the teachers don't become marines or SWAT members. They only become people in street clothes running around armed. If there really was a mass shooting: would a real SWAT team ask before shooting someone running around with a gun whether he/she was the perpetrator? I highly doubt that.

"Arming teachers" is like the typical American answer to guns: "More guns". That has never worked before.



And with all of this you are only fighting the symptoms, of course, but not the underlying problems, which -I admit- are much more complex to identify, let alone addressing them.

Buddahaid 03-31-23 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese (Post 2860778)
...Armed teachers? American teachers are already not paid enough and treated like ****, now you want to burden them with the role of SWAT as well?....

That is the big fallacy over arming teachers. The military doesn't just give a recruit a gun and a pat on the head, so how can you expect 3rd Grade teacher Mrs. Chulsets to fill the roll of armed protector? The idea is pure bull****! Sure, schools can be hardened even more, but that's not enough. More needs to be done at the inconvenience of gun ownership, or should I say gun trade.

Keep the illegal gun trade to Mexico in check as well.


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