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AndyJWest 04-16-13 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042379)
if I came to the UK and took a photo brandishing an Armalite (since I have an Irish last name) it might not appear innocent in certain circumstances..

It wouldn't appear innocent in most circumstances. We don't allow individuals access to Armalites...

Oberon 04-16-13 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042379)
There is context to consider. A Saudi male coming to America and taking a photo holding a Golden firearm has some bad connotations behind it (I remember that Saddam has a couple of those). Perhaps if you Oberon came to Boston and took a photo of yourself brandishing that L85A2 (or perhaps a Ferguson Rifle), or if I came to the UK and took a photo brandishing an Armalite (since I have an Irish last name) it might not appear innocent in certain circumstances.

You certainly have the right to take such a photo and post it but if by some fluke you end up being questioned by the FBI you might have some explaining to do.

So, guilty until proven innocent? :hmmm:

Stealhead 04-16-13 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042367)
Doesn't stop many Americans from posing with their guns. :hmmm: Or indeed, me from posing with an L85A2.

Anyway, BPD said yesterday that the reports that they had a man in hospital under custody were false, and yet today those false reports are still circulating. It's almost as bad as the photo of a little girl going around facebook asking people to pray for her as she was a victim of the bombing when she was in fact nowhere near Boston at the time and was, in fact, running in another race in Virginia sometime last year.

On top of all that "golden gun" looks like Sig Sauer P series to me maybe a 226 or 220 it is an older version as well it does not have the newer extractor so it is either an older model or a Turkish copy.

I agree with you the photo was likely taken in Saudi Arabia the wealthy love their golden guns.

I think xenophobia is flaring in relation to this Saudi kid and that only plays into the hands of Islamic terrorist groups sadly.What is also not mentioned is that a female Saudi national was also injured while attending the marathon with her family of course a female does not fit the bill so she got ignored.

I may be wrong but I have a gut feeling that this person was never of any interest to the authorities perhaps beyond some basic questioning if that even occured and that someone heard about him and decided to spread their agenda.The fact this information first came form some of the most unreliable media outlets furthers my suspension.

Oberon 04-16-13 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2042383)
I'm not better my self. I remember my first thought when I heard about the Oklahoma bombing...When will we be free of these Islamic terror...I was wrong

When this awful thing happened i Oslo, Norway my first thought was..not again, when will we be free...

I have learned my lesson, no more hesitated conclusion

Markus

Oh aye, it's certainly possible that this is an Islamic militant of some sort, or a domestic nutjob, however starting some sort of facebook lynch mob on a report that's been denied by the Boston Police Department is not exactly helpful to the Boston Police or FBI who will have to expend resources protecting the individual in question from misguided well wishers. :nope:
I fully expect to see those pictures pasted into some note like 'This terrorist is reponsible for the Boston attacks but is being protected by the FBI because of Obamas government' or something like that on facebook before long.
Not an attack on TLAM, he's just copying and pasting what someone else has dug up in their 'righteous quest'.

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2042382)
How do you know where the photo was taken?

If Facebook and his Mobile Phone are to believed it was taken in Revere Mass, on Sept 3rd 2012 (although he has returned from a trip to Saudi recently).

EDIT: I checked the photo to see if a location and time were imbedded and it contained no Metadata, which might be due to it being uploaded to Facebook I guess.

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2042384)
It wouldn't appear innocent in most circumstances. We don't allow individuals access to Armalites...

Massachusetts restricts ownership of handguns.

Stealhead 04-16-13 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042393)
If Facebook and his Mobile Phone are to believed it was taken in Revere Mass, on Sept 3rd 2012 (although he has returned from a trip to Saudi recently).

Massachusetts restricts ownership of handguns.


You are aware that news networks are currently saying that the government has officially stated that this kid was a spectator and not a suspect I hope.

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2042390)
Not an attack on TLAM, he's just copying and pasting what someone else has dug up in their 'righteous quest'.

I just report 'em, I don't make them up. :salute:

TLAM Strike 04-16-13 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2042397)
You are aware that news networks are currently saying that the government has officially stated that this kid was a spectator and not a suspect I hope.

Did I ever say he was a suspect? I stated he was the Person of Interest the Boston Police had questioned at Brigham Hospital, he has a photo of himself with a fancy looking pistol and that his last name happened to be the same as someone from Saudi Arabia who was connected to AQ.

None of those things say that he did it, all they are is just plain simple facts.

Stealhead 04-16-13 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2042406)
Did I ever say he was a suspect? I stated he was the Person of Interest the Boston Police had questioned at Brigham Hospital, he has a photo of himself with a fancy looking pistol and that his last name happened to be the same as someone from Saudi Arabia who was connected to AQ.

None of those things say that he did it, all they are is just plain simple facts.


You just seem to be building your case against him.The facts the way I see them are that the dude is Saudi he has a fairly common Saudi last name and he has a Facebook photo that shows him holding a handgun which you have no idea where the photo was taken.There is no proof what so ever that the BPD ever considered this person a POI.

Jimbuna 04-16-13 04:13 PM

Let us all keep an open mind....there are a great deal of parameters and possibilities to be taken into consideration.

Platapus 04-16-13 04:13 PM

I also post on a car owners forum. They also have a "general topics" forum on their website.

Not surprising, there is a thread on the Boston Marathon incident.


So far 3 pages of posts about this horrible incident and not one single political remark. Nothing but concern for members in that area and discussions on the attack.

If they can do that, why can't this forum do it?

August 04-16-13 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2042413)
I also post on a car owners forum. They also have a "general topics" forum on their website.

Not surprising, there is a thread on the Boston Marathon incident.


So far 3 pages of posts about this horrible incident and not one single political remark. Nothing but concern for members in that area and discussions on the attack.

If they can do that, why can't this forum do it?

I don't know. We didn't even make it past post #12.

Jimbuna 04-16-13 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2042413)
I also post on a car owners forum. They also have a "general topics" forum on their website.

Not surprising, there is a thread on the Boston Marathon incident.


So far 3 pages of posts about this horrible incident and not one single political remark. Nothing but concern for members in that area and discussions on the attack.

If they can do that, why can't this forum do it?

Quite simply...this is GT and there is nothing unusual or different to what has occurred in the past.

Tchocky 04-16-13 04:21 PM

I like to think GT can be self-correcting about stuff like this. The stupid stuff being posted is getting drowned in sense.

Bilge_Rat 04-16-13 04:28 PM

apparently authorities are now saying the Saudi POI is a witness, not a suspect.


reports say the bombs were packed in "pressure cookers" to maximise the impact. There are also reportts that these types of bombs are in common use in the ME which would seem to point to an Islamic group.

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CNN) -- The bombs that turned the finish line at the Boston Marathon into a scene of horror were made from pressure cookers and hidden in backpacks, federal law enforcement sources said Tuesday.

The blasts were likely detonated by timers -- not by cell phones, a law enforcement official said.
The U.S. government has warned federal agencies in the past that pressure cookers -- airtight pots used to quickly cook or preserve foods -- have been turned into bombs in parts of the world. A Department of Homeland Security memo called it "a technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps."

"Typically, these bombs are made by placing TNT or other explosives in a pressure cooker and attaching a blasting cap at the top of the pressure cooker," the memo said.


Such bombs are "very effective," terrorism expert Jeff Beatty told CNN. Taliban and al Qaeda militants "use them to make their IEDs," he said.

"That doesn't mean it was the Taliban -- other people can read about this," said Beatty, who served in the FBI, CIA and the military's Delta Force.

So far, investigators have found no foreign or al Qaeda connection to the bombings, a U.S. official told CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/bos...ion/index.html

Jimbuna 04-16-13 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2042424)
I like to think GT can be self-correcting about stuff like this. The stupid stuff being posted is getting drowned in sense.

I certainly hope so...less work for moderation :yep:

Cybermat47 04-16-13 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2042429)
There are also reportts that these types of bombs are in common use in the ME which would seem to point to an Islamic group.

I doubt that this was the work of Islamic extremists. They generally tend to use a suicide bomber to pull the trigger, don't they?

Jimbuna 04-16-13 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2042432)
I doubt that this was the work of Islamic extremists. They generally tend to use a suicide bomber to pull the trigger, don't they?

Not certain for sure....do they?

Bilge_Rat 04-16-13 04:42 PM

Well it could be a copycat group or another group that trained in the ME. The type of bombs would seem to indicate they know what they are doing.

Extremists in the ME do not always use suicide bombers, it really depends on the target and how difficult it is to approach.

August 04-16-13 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2042432)
I doubt that this was the work of Islamic extremists. They generally tend to use a suicide bomber to pull the trigger, don't they?


Well yeah but only in parts of the world where they have the population to draw from. Over here they might place a higher value on hard to recruit operatives rather than expend them in a suicide bombing.


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